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To: Kai-Uwe who wrote (10044)	12/3/1997 10:26:00 AM
From: hpeace	Respond to of 97611

I post facts,,it doesn't work on some people. plus I'm in a spot that I cannot just posts any number..since some sources i cannot post. It needs to be in print first. then I can post.. I posted what the market share numbers were per sources in july and aug. it would be difficult to come up with 70% market hsare with the facts I posted.Now that I'm exposed.. I think cpq market share in 1k is 58% for 3q..... how close am I with 58%???????<ggg> any ideas??? I agree with almost 60% not 70%..that's a crazy number. In my final post. I gave him an out.. I said he was mislead by the article and that is natural... i had been mislead by articles before.. what more can I do..... I posted the aug and july numbers. and indicated that he just mislead the article that said cpq had 67% of the 1k... that was 67% of aug...maybe of course if the article you posted is correct then all the posting to cpq is losing 1k share just makes a stronger case for cpq is gaining in the over k share with that kind of unit growth. and , the FACT that cpq is losing market hshare was obviuos. the 5 or six reports came out last week and most of the thread agreed with them. I gave up on meathead and jim sunday.. I just joke with them now. when meathead said "he never asked me where the IDC website was" and I posted the fact that he had ask me where the website was and posted his post.... then he said "Ohh that, i was just being sarcastic"....So, I gave up right then... I must have said.."oh, I forget that or I blew the post or mispelled the post,or I made a mistake in the wording, etc. etc a hundred times in my SI tenure..and he couldn't say... i forgot about that one time....so, I gave up right then. meathead asking for the idc website" To: steve (23584 ) From: Meathead Sunday, Nov 30 1997 12:35AM EST Reply # of 23652 steve - would you give us the URL to that report or where their weekly updates are located? I can't seem to find them on the web... I get them at work so it's hard to tell what portions are paid for and which are free. If it's free I'd assume it would be on their web site. meathead saying "He never asked me for the site To: steve (23649 ) From: Meathead Sunday, Nov 30 1997 5:14PM EST Reply # of 24019 steve - I never asked you where their website was. Any yahoo can find it. My company gives me access to IDC's Personal Systems service, I am blocked from some of the other reports where "I don't have a need to know" for my profession. Obviously, my company does not pay for each report piece meal but has subscriptions to the services that are applicable to our business. You are the one who said it cost's 100k/month... I only said my company spends more than that monthly. Look it up. So I'm gonna spare the thread from anymore of this dreadful argument and say "YOU WIN".... I don't have access to every-single-report. My access is limited to PC systems information.... not things like Asia/Pac Printer sales or semiconductors and the like. That's what I was referring to.. PC info. But until I see an url for that Nov20 report, I win that one<gggggggggggg> What I like to bring to this thread is as much of that information as possible, in my own words, and through my interpretation, as I am legally allowed to do. MEATHEAD SO, AT THAT TIME...I GIVE UP... YOU WILL NOT WIN WITH FACTS, YOU WILL NOT WIN BY EVEN POSTING THEIR OWN POST TO SHOW YOUR POINT... IT'S POINTLESS.... BY THE WAY. DELL LANDED A PRETTY NEAT ACCOUNT AND APPLICATION WITH WALMART AS A VIDEO, CD KIOSK...2000 SERVERS.