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To: koan who wrote (212770)	12/27/2012 2:09:41 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541604

It's just a rumor that's been around forever. I'm not a believer. But Poppy Bush DOES have some questionable things on his record, like pardoning all the Iran-Contra criminals of the Reagan admin. nytimes.com It's been speculated that Bush actually RAN that entire thing, and the pardons were to keep the players from talking. It was a lesson learned by his son, who didn't pardon, but vacated the conviction of Scooter Libby. Cheney wanted a full pardon. It makes very clear that a president, with his pardon power, can commit "high crimes and misdemeanors" through subordinates, and if these crimes are ever discovered, pardon the people who did the deeds. A "Get out of Jail FREE" card. Something I'm sure the founding fathers would disapprove of. It's been a hallmark of Republican presidencies since Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon.

To: koan who wrote (212770)	12/27/2012 5:55:28 PM
From: T L Comiskey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541604

re...That is a pretty wild claim. this one passes the smell test.. imo EXCLUSIVE TO THE NAPA SENTINELA A BAC 111 aircraft, which had been reconfigured to carry a sufficient amount of fuel to travel 3,600 miles, left Andrews Air Force Base in the late afternoon of October 19, 1980. The aircraft's destination: Paris, France. The Passengers aboard the aircraft included the command pilot U.S. Navy Captain Gunther Russbacher, Richard Brenneke and Heinrick Rupp, on the flight deck; and in the cabin was William Casey, soon to be the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency; Donald Greggs, soon to be the ambassador to South Korea; and George Bush, the future Vice President and President of the United States and former director of the Central Intelligence Agency. There were also Secret Service agents aboard the aircraft. This is the weekend - three weeks before the November 1980 Presidential Election, that Bush has claimed he spent at Andrews Air Force Base. Testifying to this flight is Russbacher, the pilot. The Navy pilot is currently at Terminal Island, a federal prison, awaiting an appeal on a charge of misuse and misappropriation of government properties, misuse of government jets, and misuse of government purchase orders for purchase of fuel. He was also a member of the Office of Naval Intelligence and worked with the Central Intelligence Agency. Russbacher's alias is Robert A. Walker. Russbacher now becomes the second crew member of that flight to testify to this clandestine episode that may have changed the politics of this nation and which has been labeled the "October Surprise". Brenneke was upheld by a Federal jury when he testified about the flight. After his testimony he was charged by the Federal Government with perjury, but a Federal jury acquitted him upholding his testimony that the flight actually took place. The trial was held in Portland, Oregon last year. Russbacher, in an exclusive interview, states that Bush stayed at the Hotel Crillion in Paris. Russbacher has stated that more than one flight was involved, but that this was the initial flight at which time an agreement was made between Bush and Casey and the Government of Iran to delay the release of American hostages in Iran until after the November 1980 election. Former President Jimmy Carter and several Congressmen are now asking for an investigation into the "October Surprise" dmc.members.sonic.net

To: koan who wrote (212770)	12/28/2012 10:38:01 AM
From: John Vosilla	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541604

LBJ's Mistress Blows Whistle On JFK Assassination youtube.com Little doubt CIA was behind JFK's assassination. Loved this book on the topic. Douglass never mentions Bush, LBJ, Hoover as having any direct involvement but our military policies changed dramatically within days of the assassination so he lets you draw your own conclusions.. At the height of the Cold War, JFK risked committing the greatest crime in human history: starting a nuclear war. Horrified by the specter of nuclear annihilation, Kennedy gradually turned away from his long-held Cold Warrior beliefs and toward a policy of lasting peace. But to the military and intelligence agencies in the United States, who were committed to winning the Cold War at any cost, Kennedy’s change of heart was a direct threat to their power and influence. Once these dark "Unspeakable" forces recognized that Kennedy’s interests were in direct opposition to their own, they tagged him as a dangerous traitor, plotted his assassination, and orchestrated the subsequent cover-up. Douglass takes readers into the Oval Office during the tense days of the Cuban Missile Crisis, along on the strange journey of Lee Harvey Oswald and his shadowy handlers, and to the winding road in Dallas where an ambush awaited the President’s motorcade. As Douglass convincingly documents, at every step along the way these forces of the Unspeakable were present, moving people like pawns on a chessboard to promote a dangerous and deadly agenda. amazon.com