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To: Brumar89 who wrote (32261)	12/29/2012 8:58:54 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

"how could you know anything about angels or demons" The only thing I know about them is that they exist only in the imagination of superstitious and naive people. Superstitious people have imagined invisible creatures as causal agents of that which they are ignorant of. There was a time when ignorance was so prevalent that almost every effect had a demon behind it!! LOL! For some people, nothing ever changes!

To: Brumar89 who wrote (32261)	12/29/2012 11:38:25 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

You never have attempted to answer the question ... how could you know anything about angels or demons? I guess you realize you don't have an answer You were answered in full, that the world was created or not , that such immaterial spirits exist or not, is at best irrelevent. (do you need this to be bolded in for you?) And not only uneccessary but the reliance on magical explanations simply point out the problem of a "perfect being" creating so much imperfection. That men painted those exquisitely beautiful cave paintings 20,000yrs ago of so many cherished animals, paying so much attention to their natural form , beauty, power & grace, at least had the good sense to focus on what is already in existence, fully formed , seen , lived with & experienced side by side with. If the argument against naturalism is based on this intelligent design which is innate & manifest in the Creator's subjects, that naturalistic evolution by itself could not produce such complex exquisite mind, this itself is defeated when the proponents of design are still given over to superstitions & ruminations of the imaginary , non verifiable that are ever manifested as observeable phenomena. If anything is true, human beings in their past and present condition are far and away not the best example of Intelligent Design , far the opposite is the case if one was being the slightest bit observant. One doesnt need belief in angels to make one more capable of understanding horses or be a better horseman or learn to love horses. Generally all things that can be known are simple reflections of what we are already, why add the excess baggage of giving over to rationalizing imaginary beings when there are so many real living ones present in the world ? As i said before, whether the world was created or not is irrelevent, that it is a continuum of Nature is quite sufficient & all anyone needs to know. In fact it is one thing that were all pretty collectively sure of, the sun sets , the next day it rises, youre born, you grow old & you die like everything else. (and has been going on for quite some time) The tendency to imagine "more" would be to my mind the greatest argument for Naturalism as it would be the expected thing for still immature & insecure minds, in still dawning human culture to come up with , that is the belief that they are or will become immortals ( absolutely no different than the ancient Egyptians 5,000yr ago)