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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (213274)	1/1/2013 11:11:07 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541786

"a leader facing the consequences of an inaction must be more pragmatic" Inaction was our friend. It is a new Congress tomorrow.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (213274)	1/1/2013 12:19:17 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541786

I, quite frankly, much prefer the Clinton negotiating style to the Obama one. Let the Reps feel the consequences of their intransigent negotiating style. And the country see the consequences. Then reenter the negotiating. The contrast you paint between ideological and pragmatic doesn't apply here. Just different ways to negotiate. That, I gather, is what Krugman has in mind.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (213274)	1/1/2013 1:59:58 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541786

That is the truth dude. Krugman is like Plato. People like him have a compulsion to tell the truth. It is the only way they know how to live their lives. It is a normal and common trait among many intellectuals like Krugman. Ezra Klein is another. That is why we go to them for information. They know their subject matter and they tell the truth. Unlike Republicans. Thank god. <<Krugman really has a thing for Obama doesn't he? Maybe Krugman is pissy mad because they never ask him what he thinks? <<<<< It has less to do with where Obama ended up than with how he got there. He kept drawing lines in the sand, then erasing them and retreating to a new position. And his evident desire to have a deal before hitting the essentially innocuous fiscal cliff bodes very badly for the confrontation looming in a few weeks over the debt ceiling.>>>>> The difference between an ideologue