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To: epicure who wrote (213321)1/1/2013 12:38:38 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541457
 
"But we still have hard left and right."

Only by American definitions. By the world standard, "hard leftists" don't exist in the US. I met a "hard leftist" young man in the Arcata, CA. town square. He was protesting, by his lonesome, carrying a sign that read "Private property is a crime!". I had a discussion with him about how he was headed down a futile and lonely course in life, pursuing and ideal that will never happen in America, that will only cause him to be hated, reviled and perhaps killed or jailed.



To: epicure who wrote (213321)1/1/2013 12:45:22 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541457
 
In general the "hard" adjective before left and right political terms indicates such strong displeasure with the way things are politically as to favor major changes. No Dem in congress, to my knowledge, at least right now, is in that category. Even Bernie Sanders is not such. He's quite happy with the welfare state and only wants to protect current provisions or provide further extensions of such. Most of those Dems who might appear to some to be "hard" left are only very strong defenders of the welfare state.

It's the Reps who have a large share of "hard" right members in congress, those who want to dismantle the current welfare state and return to the 1930s or prior.