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To: epicure who wrote (213332)	1/1/2013 12:53:24 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541472

Ah, I was signaling we simply disagree on this one. I agree that "hard" is a relative term but disagree that it's made relative to some center. Historically, it's meant, to the degree it's used which isn't a great deal, such discontent with present political and social arrangements as to want large scale structural changes. I'm deliberately structuring that sentence so that that the cut off point to "hard" is not favoring a revolution. Just very significant changes. In our own political context, that's content and discontent with the welfare state. Thus, taking my distinction and looking at the negative cliff deal votes in the senate, Tom Harkin is simply asserting that a better deal could be done defending the status quo; while Marco Rubio and Rand Paul or voting in line with their stated aims to end the welfare state. Interesting side light is that Bernie Sanders was not listed among those voting against the deal.