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To: longnshort who wrote (32488)	1/7/2013 5:31:28 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

"what you can't google ?" Of course I can. Don't be silly! I googled your assertion and was unable to find any "followers of Gaia" who wanted to jail global warming deniers. Indeed, I did not find very many people in the entire world of google who wanted to violate the rights of free speech and free thought. So naturally I wondered what you were talking about. Rather despicable to even consider that thinking for yourself should be a crime.

To: longnshort who wrote (32488)	1/16/2013 4:59:17 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Church can't withhold names in Calif. priest files By GREG RISLING \| Associated Press – Mon, Jan 7, 2013 LOS ANGELES (AP) — The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles must release the names of church leaders and pedophile priests identified in thousands of pages of internal documents recounting sexual abuse allegations dating back decades, a judge ruled Monday. The decision by Superior Court Judge Emilie Elias overturned much of a 2011 order by another judge that would have allowed the archdiocese to black out the names of church higher-ups. Victims, as well as The Associated Press and Los Angeles Times, argued for the names to be public. Elias said she weighed the privacy rights of priests and others — including those who are mentioned in the documents but were not accused of any wrongdoing — versus the public's interest in learning details of the child abuse that prompted the archdiocese to agree to a record $660 million settlement with victims in 2007. "Don't they have the right to know what happened in their local church?" Elias said before ruling from the bench. The documents include letters and memos between top church officials and their attorneys, medical and psychological records, complaints from parents and, in some cases, correspondence with the Vatican about abusive priests. There are approximately 30,000 pages and it wasn't immediately clear how soon they would be released. Elias stipulated that some redactions of people who played no major role would be allowed, and attorneys for the plaintiffs and church were discussing how to do so. The sexual abuse scandal within the Catholic Church has played out in many dioceses around the country, with victims receiving huge settlements. Files released in other places, such as Boston, have shown the church shuffled predator priests among parishes without calling police. Both plaintiffs' and church attorneys said Monday they want the documents released as soon as possible. "Our client's objective is to get this over with," church attorney Michael Hennigan said. Attorneys for the archdiocese previously said they planned to make the confidential files public by the middle of this month with the names of the church hierarchy blacked out. A set of documents with the redactions already was prepared and Hennigan said it's not clear how long it will take to produce a new set with far fewer redactions. "We have to see how big this mountain is," he said outside of court. Plaintiffs' lawyer Ray Boucher believes it should take less than a month. He said the names revealed in the documents could range from priests at local churches to those in the Vatican. Hennigan said recently retired Cardinal Roger Mahony doesn't object to having his name appear when the files are released. "This is a very important and significant step," Boucher said. "Clearly my preference would be that the files be unredacted and the full files be released. But I understand there's a need to get out these files as soon as possible." The 2007 settlement stipulated that personnel files would be made public, but more than 20 accused priests went to court to block the release, arguing that making their files public would violate their privacy rights. In 2011, Judge Dickran Tevrizian ruled the documents could be heavily redacted. He said the release of the files should not be used to "embarrass or to ridicule the church." He said the public could figure out which church leaders were responsible for how molesting priests were handled by matching the documents' date and location with a roster of the archdiocese staff at the time. Associated Press Writer Gillian Flaccus contributed to this report. news.yahoo.com

To: longnshort who wrote (32488)	1/17/2013 9:38:38 PM
From: Greg or e	Respond to of 69300

“Ecocide:” Kill Field Mice, Land in the Hague “Ecocide” equates the slaughter at Auschwitz/Berkenau with the development of the Alberta tar sands. I’m serious. ” Ecocide–killing the earth–is a proposed new “international crime against peace” that activists consider an equivalent horror to such true evils as genocide and ethnic cleansing. Ecocide would literally criminalize large-scale resource development and treat wealth creators from the earth as we now do war criminals. As I wrote elsewhere: The This Is Ecocide website states: Ecocide is the extensive destruction, damage to or loss of ecosystem(s) of a given territory, whether by human agency or other causes, to such an extent that peaceful enjoyment by the inhabitants of that territory has been severely diminished. Note that “peaceful enjoyment by the inhabitants” is a very broad term, intended to include everything from grass, fish, and insects to mice, snakes, and people. And diminishment of “peaceful enjoyment” would not require actual pollution, but could mean a declining supply of forage or a loss of foliage caused by almost any use of the land, perhaps even simple urban growth. Not only that, but the crime of ecocide would be so encompassing that any company involved in large scale resource development would almost certainly commit it. Indeed, fictional CEOs of Alberta Tar Sand extraction companies have already been found guilty in a mock trial held at the English Supreme Court. Ecocide treats the lives of humans and flora and fauna as morally equal. From the proposed statute: 3. Crime against humanity- A person, company, organisation, partnership, or any other legal entity who causes ecocide under section 1 of this Act and has breached a human right to life is also guilty of a crime against humanity. 4. Crime against nature- A person, company, organisation, partnership, or any other legal entity who causes ecocide under section 1 of this Act and has breached a non-human right to life is guilty of a crime against nature… 6. Crime of Ecocide- The right to life is a universal right and where a person, company, organisation, partnership, or any other legal entity causes extensive damage to, destruction of or loss of human and or non-human life of the inhabitants of a territory under sections 1 – 5 of this Act is guilty of the crime of Ecocide. Kill field mice, go to prison in the Hague. Ecocide is anti human because (among other reasons) it rejects human exceptionalism, and if it were ever enacted, it would plunge the world into economic collapse. Now, a petition drive is about to commence seeking to have the European Parliament pass an anti-ecocide law. From the press release: The launch of the European Citizens’ Initiative “End Ecocide in Europe” will take place in the European Parliament in Brussels on 22 January 2013. This initiative, led by a committee of 11 citizens from nine European countries, aims at ending ecocide, which is the extensive damage to, destruction of, or loss of ecosystems. The event marks the beginning of a significant process; in 1 year the initiative must collect 1 million signatures after which Ecocide may be made a crime in the European Union. Don’t think that in a world in which a river has been made a “person” in New Zealand and “nature” has been given the equivalent of human rights in two countries and some 30 American cities, that activists won’t find one million clueless and/or nihilistic Europeans to sign their petition. Some people really do want us to return to the caves. Ecocide won’t become law in the near term, but unless we combat it now in its embryonic stage, the ecocide movement has the potential to cause real human harm.