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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Wayners who wrote (692260)	1/10/2013 11:44:27 PM
From: SilentZ	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575906

>Harbor Freight milling machines don't cost anywhere near $10,000. Actually, the stronger ones do. Which I'm guessing is what you'd need to make the items in question in any significant quantity. And most people really couldn't do it. And once again, the vast majority of gun homicides most likely do not occur with the type of premeditation that it would take to go out, buy a mill machine, learn to use it properly, and make gun paraphernalia. Which is why I consider it to be absurd that the discussions are around these magazines in the first place. There were almost 13,000 gun-related murders in the U.S. in 2009. In no year since 1980 has the number of victims involved in mass murders topped 150. If you add in suicides and accidents, you're talking 30K+ fatal shootings in the U.S. in 2009. So, at most, you're talking mass murder resulting in about a third of a percent of gun deaths in the U.S.. And no one's killing themselves with a high-capacity magazine. That's not to say that I think anyone should need a high-capacity magazine for civilian purposes, and that I don't doubt that banning high capacity magazines would reduce that 100 or so deaths per year by half or more, but they're not even close to the problem. Guns are a major factor in our murder problem. Not specific types of guns. And guns aren't the only factor. But the solutions that I'd espouse will never, ever be on the table. Obama will not put them on the table, now will Biden, nor will 95% of the Senate or House. So I'm only really fighting this issue on a rhetorical basis; I wouldn't make my voting decisions based on it. So buy all the guns you want. I'll think you're nuts for wanting to have them, but I'm not afraid of them... My likelihood of being killed by a gun is infinitesimally small, and for almost the entire country, that's the case. -Z