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To: locogringo who wrote (83047)	1/12/2013 3:19:38 PM
From: lorne	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 103300

White House responds to secession petitions 'As much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart' byDrew Zahn Saturday, January 12, 2013 wnd.com The White House has responded to the hundreds of thousands of Americans who signed digital petitions asking permission for states to peacefully secede from the union. In a nutshell, the answer is no. “As much as we value a healthy debate,” writes Jon Carson, director of the White House’s Office of Public Engagement, in in the official response, “we don’t let that debate tear us apart.” WND was the first news outlet in the nation to report when a Louisiana man began a petition on the White House’s “We the People” website, asking permission for his state to peacefully secede. The Louisiana petition quoted from the Declaration of Independence: “‘Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government.’” According to the guidelines of the “We the People” website, when a petition reaches 25,000 signatures, the White House has pledged to put the petition on a queue for response. Louisiana’s petition quickly reached that threshold and was followed by similar petitions from all 50 states, several of which also topped the 25,000 mark. Counter-petitions were also created, including one that called on the White House to “deport everyone that signed a petition to withdraw their state from the United States Of America.” That petition also cleared the 25,000-signature hurdle. The official White House response is listed as a response to all of the secession petitions, pro and con. “Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States ‘in order to form a more perfect union’ through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government,” the response reasoned. “They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot – a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. “As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, ‘in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual,’” the response continued. “In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that ‘[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States.’” The full response can be read here. The question of secession’s constitutionality has been debated, indeed, since long before Abraham Lincoln’s time, and has remained debated even since the Texas v. White Supreme Court decision cited in the White House response.

To: locogringo who wrote (83047)	1/12/2013 8:50:08 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	9 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 103300

The whole anti gun thing is bullshit and yet another distraction from the REAL issue... the real issue is that Godliness has been systematically and aggressively removed from the American psyche... there is no wholesomeness in the American conscience, the loss of wholesomeness in the family unit, and violence is the logical outcome of this loss... protesting gun ownership is attacking only the symptom of the real issue, it has nothing to do with guns, it has nothing to do with violent videos, all of these narrow minded issues are only the results of the absence of Godliness in our political system and the removal of values from the family system... the rights of EVERY American citizen is given to us, endowed to us, by our Creator, that's exactly what it says, but I will wager that very few, if any, politicians in Washington have ever read the Bill of Rights or the Constitution... GZ

To: locogringo who wrote (83047)	1/12/2013 9:14:04 PM
From: lorne	2 Recommendations Respond to of 103300

CNN's Piers Morgan to be taken off air? Immigration group targets cable-network anchor Saturday, January 12, 2013 wnd.com WASHINGTON – Officials with the conservative group Americans for Legal Immigration are challenging CNN to take Piers Morgan off the air after a controversial debate on gun control with InfoWars.com’s Alex Jones. Jones has been just one those Morgan has brought on the air over gun control in recent days. Read more at wnd.com Following the debate with Jones, which sparked a media firestorm, Morgan featured a panel on his program including Daily Beast sports columnist Buzz Bissinger, and commentator Abby Huntsman, daughter of presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, in which Buzz joked about how someone should “pop” Jones with an “assault rifle.” To which Abby Huntsman laughingly responded, “I’d love to see that, in uniform!” William Gheen, president of ALIPAC, called Morgan’s segment one of the worst he’s seen in his career. “Monitoring the media is something I have done professionally for two decades now, and in that entire time I have never seen anything as outrageous as the Piers Morgan segment joking about killing one of their guests with an ‘assault rifle’,” Gheen told WND. Morgan and Jones engaged in a heated debate over Americans’ rights to be armed, despite Morgan being British. The ever-controversial Jones discussed a New World Order and mentioned his fear of political assassination. Morgan’s decision to feature Jones as the face of the right wing gun control position outraged many conservatives including Glenn Beck and Erick Erickson who feared he would delegitimize their case. The gun control debate has been put back on the forefront of American politics following the Aurora, Colo., theater shooting and Newtown, Conn., school tragedy. Those representing Second Amendment advocacy including Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, and current NRA President David Keene, have received death threats – ironically involving guns – over social media. ALIPAC also has launched a social media effort that has gained them 65,000 Facebook followers and has clogged up lines at CNN calling for Morgan to be taken off air. “Please call CNN to demand that Piers Morgan be fired for advocating political murder with assault rifles on last night’s show. Free speech is one thing, but we cannot allow the liberal media to take things this far against those that oppose amnesty or support gun rights etc.. Call 404.827.1500 and wait for a human operator,” Gheen encouraged. ALIPAC has posted a video clip online. The Washington Post reported that Morgan also interviewed gun-rights advocate John Lott and dismissed him by “scoffing at him. Morgan then interviewed gun-rights advocate Larry Pratt and dismissed him by “insulting” him. The report said Morgan was unable to control all of the interviews over guns. When Ben Shapiro, editor-at-large of Breitbart.com was on the show, Morgan brought out Ronald Reagan. He said, according to the Post, “One of the great right-wing presidents of modern times agreed with me.” “Shapiro’s priceless retort: ‘So?’” the paper reported. Morgan then said, “You genuinely believe your own government is going to turn on you in a way that you require an AR-15 to challenge them? You really believe that will happen in modern-day America? Is that what you think?” Said Shapiro, “”They may not turn on me. They may not turn on my children. But the fact is this, history is replete with democracies going tyrannical. It has happened. It happened in France in the 19th century. It happened in Spain in the last century. It happened in Germany. It happened in Italy. It happened in Japan.”