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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (151450)1/16/2013 9:24:03 AM
From: TideGlider1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224858
 
What happens when the FED has to raise interest rates? How will we pay the debt when interest rates double or triple? It needs to be paid NOW....not with Obama's smoke and mirrors bullshit. Real spending reduction must begin NOW. You apparently don't see yourself long for this and don't care. However, things can fall apart swiftly and you may suffer with the rest of us.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (151450)1/16/2013 9:26:44 AM
From: TideGlider  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224858
 
Kenneth, how many times have you declared bankruptcy?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (151450)1/16/2013 7:05:08 PM
From: lorne7 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224858
 
Limbaugh noted, “If we’re going to have universal background checks on virtually everybody who buys a gun, you think maybe it’s time to require a background check on anybody wanting to be president? I would submit to you we still have not had a background check on Barack Obama.

Rush Limbaugh: Obama 'wants people to snap'

Says president seeks 'revenge,' suggests background check on him
byJoe Kovacs
Wednesday, January 16, 2013
wnd.com

PALM BEACH, Fla. – President Obama’s newly announced gun-control initiatives are intended as “revenge” against many Americans, as he’s pushing them “to snap,” claims top-rated radio host Rush Limbaugh.

“I think he wants people to snap. I think Obama is challenging everybody’s sanity,” Limbaugh said on his show Wednesday afternoon. “Obama [is] literally pushing people to snap, attacking the very sanity of the country.”

Obama announced a sweeping set of directives he intends will cut down on Americans’ access to guns, setting the stage for a constitutional battle with states where lawmakers already are openly defying the latest power grab by the White House.

His plan would demand federal access to the details every time an uncle sells a .22 to a nephew, would ban some weapons outright through a limit on ammunition capacity, would waive medical privacy laws in some cases so individuals can be reported, and others.

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Coming on the heels of a recent birth-control mandate, Limbaugh noted, “All of this is so in our face. Everything that people hold dear is under assault. Deliberately making people upset. This is not what presidents do.”

Speculating why Obama is taking this action, Limbaugh said, “Maybe this is about revenge. Obama used that word when he was on the campaign trail prior to the election. He told his supporters in Ohio to go vote and get their revenge. Revenge against who? Well, obviously the people that disagree with Obama. But who are those people? He clearly knows who they are, and I think the root of this … can be found in the comment that Obama made when he thought he was off the records at a fundraiser in San Francisco when he talked about the ‘bitter clingers.’”

In 2008, Obama made the “bitter clingers” comment, referring to small-town Pennsylvanians upset over a number of issues, saying “It’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

“These are people that the liberals all know,” Limbaugh said. “These are ‘the not very bright people’ that want life to never change. They don’t want any progress. They want to remain cloistered in their archaic, antique past and when things don’t go right, when there’s too much change, when there’s too much progress or progressivism. Like when there’s civil-rights laws, they don’t like it. When there’s gay rights and gay marriage. They don’t like it. When there’s all kinds of cultural rot on TV, they don’t like it. … That’s who Obama wants revenge on. Maybe he has an active dislike for the people he calls the bitter clingers. That birth-control mandate was revenge on the bitter clingers.”

Limbaugh also came up with an absurd way to help put an end to abortion in America.

“You want to know how to stop abortion? Require that each one be carried out with a gun,” he said.

Among Obama’s 23 executive orders presented today several are aimed at upgrading the system of background checks for gun purchases.

Limbaugh noted, “If we’re going to have universal background checks on virtually everybody who buys a gun, you think maybe it’s time to require a background check on anybody wanting to be president? I would submit to you we still have not had a background check on Barack Obama.

“We are soon to be starting the second term of Obama’s regime, year number five without a background check. And by that, I mean the media have never vetted Obama. Low-information voters have no idea who he is. A majority of people who vote don’t really know anything about Barack Obama. Background checks, anybody?”

And regarding Obama’s push to drive citizens to snap, Limbaugh said, “You just be cool and calm. Everything’s going to be fine. I’ll tell you when it’s not.”



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (151450)1/17/2013 7:46:53 AM
From: lorne3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224858
 
philips...So why do you think YOUR dumb leader would not have some of his gangs do a search on gun confiscation in the place he lives.. bet he knows that none of his media will report this to his dumbed down voter bolcks.

Gun Grabbers Have No Proof Washington DC's Gun Ban Laws Have Worked
Monday, 29 September 2008 00:00 Written by Administrator
By
Larry Pratt
gunowners.org

Washington DC's unconstitutional gun ban laws have been in effect for more than 25 years.

But, I am not aware of any credible study which shows these law have worked -- by which I mean that they have reduced crimes by individuals using guns. And the gun-grabbers and their allies are unable to cite any such study.

One of the earliest backers of the DC gun ban laws was Charles Orasin.

In late 1978, when the District of Columbia's Court of Appeals upheld the District's gun ban laws, Orasin, at the time a spokesman for the National Council To Control Handguns, said: "This is a victory for all the residents of the District."

When called at his Virginia home recently and asked if he knew of any studies which shows that the DC gun ban laws have actually reduced crimes committed by people with guns, Orasin said: "I am not interested in discussing this subject."

He hangs up the phone.

Of course, that he would chose to live in the safety of Virginia which bristles with guns is perhaps all the discussion that is needed.

In his idiotically titled book Every Handgun Is Aimed At You: The Case For Banning Handguns (New Press, 2001), Josh Sugarmann, Executive Director of the Violence Policy Center (VPC), says (page 85):

"We know in the District of Columbia -- where we've banned handguns -- that if you minimize the number of handguns you are going to have less shootings, a pretty simple, straightforward concept."

Oh, really? And what data is there that shows there have been "less shootings" in Washington DC since private citizens were denied their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms?

Well, Matthew Nosanchuk, Litigation Director for the VPC, says, in an interview, he thinks that in the mid-1980s there was a University of Maryland study which showed the DC gun ban had "a positive effect."

What, exactly, Nosanchuk is alluding to is not clear because he had no specific date and no specific name for the study which he mentions.

In 1991 there was a study published in the New England Journal Of Medicine by four authors one of whom was at the time at the University of Maryland.

The study, titled "Effects of Restrictive Licensing of Handguns on Homicide and Suicide in the District of Columbia," purported to show the 1976 DC gun ban law decreased murders.

But, this study has been exposed as a methodological mess and a fraud. In a review of this study, Dr. Edgar A. Suter, chairman of Doctors For Integrity In Research And Public Policy, notes the following:


* The study's claimed apparent, temporary and miniscule homicide drop occurred two years before the DC gun ban law took effect.

* The study used raw numbers rather than population-corrected rates exaggerating the authors' misinterpretations.

* The study conveniently stopped as Washington DC's overall homicide rate skyrocketed to eight times the national average and the black, male, teen homicide rate skyrocketed to 22 times the national average.

Gene Healy, an attorney and senior editor at the CATO Institute, says the murder rate in Washington DC is 55 percent higher than before the DC gun ban laws went into effect.

Healy has joined three other attorneys -- Alan Gura, Robert A. Levy and Clark M. Neily -- to file what is arguably the finest, most concise and compellingly documented defense of the "individual right" view of the Second Amendment I have ever seen.

They represent six plaintiffs who have gone to U.S. District Court in our Nation's capital to challenge Washington DC's anti-gun laws which blatantly infringe the Constitutionally protected right of private citizens to keep and bear arms.

I repeat: This brief is without a doubt one of the best I have ever read on this subject.

You can read it and other documents pertaining to this case online here.

I urge you to read it closely, print it out and keep it as a reference document. It is excellent and the attorneys who put it together are to be congratulated.

But back to the question, is there any evidence that the DC gun ban has actually reduced crimes committed by people with guns. Perhaps the Feds know of such a study which points to the answer.

However, when this question is put to an official U.S. Justice Department spokesman, she says, after checking, "on background," asking not to be named: "I do not know of any study."

How about the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department? Certainly the MPD has some data showing the DC gun ban laws have worked. I mean, they enforce these laws, right? Wrong. No data. Here's the way the conversation went when Quinton Pearson, a Public Information Officer was interviewed:


Q: What data do you have that shows the DC gun ban laws have reduced crimes committed by people using guns?

A: What data do we actually have?

Q: Yeah. The laws have been in effect now for more than 25 years.

A: Hmmmm. I don't know that we do have any data that shows it's reduced crime. I don't think any study has ever been done.

Finally, you'd think that if anybody would have any information showing that the DC gun ban laws have worked, it would be Washington's Mayor Anthony Williams who has been one of the strongest supporters of these unconstitutional laws.

But, when asked if the Mayor had any evidence, or knew of any evidence, that the DC gun ban laws have reduced crimes committed by people with guns, his press spokesman Tony Bullock said: "No, I don't have any such information, no."

He refers the question to Peter Lavallee, Communications Director for the Office of the Corporation Counsel.

When interviewed, Lavallee says: "I don't know of any such data off-hand that I've seen." He says he'll call back after checking with his Criminal Division. He calls back.

Lavallee: "I checked with the four top people in our Criminal Division and they said this didn't ring a bell with them" (that is the question regarding whether there is any data showing that the DC gun ban laws have worked).


Q: Interesting, isn't it?, that your gun ban laws have been in effect more than 25 years and you have no evidence these laws have worked.

Lavallee: I see the point you're making.

But, wait! I have, after a diligent search, found a specific mention of a specific study assessing the impact of the DC gun ban law.

This study is alluded to in a book by one of the pioneer, Founding Fathers of the gun-grabber movement, Pete Shields.

In his 1981 book Guns Don't Die -- People Do (Arbor House), on page 79, Shields, at the time chairman of Handgun Control, Inc., notes, proudly, that Washington DC, in 1977, passed one of the strictest handgun control laws in the nation.

The result? Well, Shields says that Edward D. Jones III, a former Justice Department analyst, made a study comparing handgun homicides in 1974 with handgun homicides in 1978, the first full year of the DC gun ban law.

And? And, among other things, "the study also showed that the new law had little impact on the use of handguns in street crime."

Why? Because, according to Jones, the criminal can follow his "single-minded intention to engage in criminality" by the simple expedient of buying a handgun elsewhere.

In other words, once again, we see the truth of the statement widely ridiculed by the gun-grabbers: "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." Exactly.




Is Virginia the Cause of DC's Problems?

Washington, D.C. has, perhaps, the most restrictive gun control laws in the country, and yet it has one of the highest murder rates in the nation.

Critics claim criminals merely get their guns in Virginia where the laws are more relaxed. This, they argue, is why the D.C. gun ban is not working.

Perhaps criminals do get their guns in Virginia, but this overlooks one point: If the availability of guns in Virginia is the root of D.C.'s problems, why does Virginia not have the same murder and crime rate as the District? Virginia is awash in guns and yet the murder rate is much, much lower. This holds true even for Virginia's urban areas, as seen by the following comparison on the 25-year anniversary of the DC gun ban (in 2001):

------------------------------------------------



City

Murder rates: 25 years after DC's ban



Washington, DC

46.4 per 100,0001



Arlington, VA

2.1 per 100,0002



(Arlington is just across the river from D.C.)



Total VA metropolitan area

6.1 per 100,0003


Guns are not the problem. On the contrary, lax criminal penalties and laws that disarm the law-abiding are responsible for giving criminals a safer working environment