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To: steve harris who wrote (695078)	1/24/2013 4:14:35 PM
From: Bonefish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574102

well said. Apparently, Mr Z was not around during the MLK days.

To: steve harris who wrote (695078)	1/24/2013 4:17:17 PM
From: joseffy	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574102

MLK wanted blacks to have an equal chance of getting ahead, not given a pass to the head of the line.

To: steve harris who wrote (695078)	1/24/2013 4:18:44 PM
From: joseffy	Respond to of 1574102

MLK would puke if he found out how they were using his stature for their own profit.

To: steve harris who wrote (695078)	1/25/2013 11:29:30 AM
From: SilentZ	Respond to of 1574102

>I've been asking you for years how racism is going to end racism. All of you've been advocating is swapping the black and white pieces on the board have you not, as a means to make things "equal"? Nope. >In addition, you seem to support reparations? I don't think I've ever said I support reparations. >MLK many times in his speech talks about his dreams for equality, all children coming together. NOTHING about black kids getting a free pass to go to the head of the line in the game of life. Nothing about black kids having any govt provided checks given them just because their skin was black. All MLK wanted was equality for everyone, a level playing field, an equal opportunity at life, not a playing field tilted based on skin color. And I've never said I wanted anything different than that. And very few people in mainstream discussion ever have. People like Rush Limbaugh claim that that's the case, but it's not. >Toward the end of his life, outlined in his books, MLK tried desperately to turn his efforts from racism to poverty, knowing helping people out of poverty was the way to end racism, knowing a greater proportion of blacks were living in poverty as compared to others. He outlined the case and demanded for a hand up for people who needed it, not a hand out, the same handouts being used today to buy votes, without any concern of effectiveness in reducing poverty. MLK wasn't for the white children writing the black children a check. Affirmative action today in not a hand up, it is nothing but a scheme for people to take advantage of the despair of people in poverty. I'm all for people that need help, but it's disgusting the number of people I see making a career of living off people in need. People profiting off those people in need...."a community organizer". This whole post is littered with the remains of straw men, Steve... >Maybe you should define what you see as "equality" because I believe we have reached the point where your view of a level playing field isn't my view of a level playing field. >Maybe you should define how affirmative action programs help people who need help. We've been down this road so many times. It really borders on obsessive. >MLK wanted blacks to have an equal chance of getting ahead, not given a pass to the head of the line. Do you believe they have an equal chance of getting ahead? From my standpoint, I feel pretty darned lucky to have been born a white male. >Affirmative action was to help people who were discriminated against to gain equal access to life's opportunities, not the bastardization it is today, used by politicians as a plank in their platform. Yes, a straw man made up by conservative politicians as a false plank in their platform to rile up the "good ol' boys." >Thanks to affirmative action, we've have two generation who believe success in life is an entitlement, not just an equal chance as it was intended. Yeah, yeah... young bucks and welfare queens... we've been there. >Don't tell me you drink the kool-aid repeated here, people who like to increase their stature and pocketbook by aligning themselves with MLK. Yes. People like Glenn Beck. >I don't need any, I just did a simple search which turned up many links to testimony which was entered in the case against the two black panthers. It's all in the public record, examples of people leaving the polling place after seeing a man in military attire armed with a billy club. No, there are people who said they saw people leaving. Not a single voter directly filed a complaint. I'm not going to say that for sure not a single person didn't vote because of these clowns, but it's one big nothingburger. Republicans are working every damned day to disenfranchise millions of minority voters, but the Fox News types pick on a case like this because black men scare 75 year old white people. This has been going on for centuries. Ever seen Birth of a Nation? -Z