To: Giordano Bruno who wrote (3501 ) 1/27/2013 9:38:06 AM From: Jeff Jordan Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3872 I have some written many years back. Recently gave to my mother...she too is tormented, not alcohol...I've had to deal with alcoholics my batting average of success took a big hit when I lost a dear friend to suicide a couple years ago now...my own brother is tormented. I had them in my office and it's a mess no longer sitting on my desk.....so you think poetry helps those who torment themselves? I kind of thought poetry of the self must come from ones own self to be of any personal help....how can people criticize poetry....isn't it the same as when you hate somebody it is only because you recognize the hate that is within your self? I'll see if I can locate something...what do starving people really need more than food.....at first, someone to care.~j~ LOL....Sir Paul, they all can't be winners, sometimes muzak just fills your headVIDEO VIP's you say? >>>what's the idea in this, that you're breaking into our consciousness, as though the thoughts were getting torn in the atmosphere before they hit our head...? <<< interesting >>>Nikola Tesla was undoubtedly connected however you want to interrupt that. <<< Also interesting ...please expand the idea so I can understand what is really meant....knowing how things work is one thing....understanding how they really work is another. Poor guy...died alone, celibate his choice and broke....invented so much the MIC needs and uses today, well, all of us. All his ideas basically stolen and credited to others....I was at Edison's lab as a child...I tried taking the 15min power naps every four hours, didn't work for me then, but I only need 4-5 hrs sleep now so no big whoop. I can do power naps when I need them.. one of the things I took away from Edison...it appears he was as big an asshole as JPM This controlling x and y....is bad enough, no way let sick minds control the z Getting through to hard heads is a folly most likely....subtle persuasion doesn't seem to work....yelling screaming doesn't work, hitting in head...sometimes work.....good luck with shame realization and awareness only path of salvation that I know of....self actualization is the highest goal of life.º<jj><They're not that different from you, are they? Same haircuts. Full of hormones, just like you. Invincible, just like you feel. The world is their oyster. They believe they're destined for great things, just like many of you, their eyes are full of hope, just like you. Did they wait until it was too late to make from their lives even one iota of what they were capable? Because, you see gentlemen, these boys are now fertilizing daffodils. But if you listen real close, you can hear them whisper their legacy to you. Go on, lean in. Listen, you hear it? - - Carpe - - hear it? - - Carpe, carpe diem, seize the day boys, make your lives extraordinary. [yt]UJsjNNp0foE#t=10s[/yt]