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To: combjelly who wrote (695938)	1/29/2013 3:03:23 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575193

don't ice core records show CO2 levels rose after a warming period and not before

To: combjelly who wrote (695938)	1/29/2013 3:29:12 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 1575193

The MWP & LIA WERE global phenonons and there's a host of evidence to support it ... the only claim to the contrary is Michael Mann's debunked hockey stick chart.

To: combjelly who wrote (695938)	1/29/2013 3:32:09 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1575193

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To: combjelly who wrote (695938)	1/29/2013 3:36:09 PM
From: joseffy	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1575193

Office Established to Close Gitmo -- Closes... Office Established to Close Gitmo -- Closes...

To: combjelly who wrote (695938)	1/29/2013 3:49:24 PM
From: longnshort	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575193

Remember Obama's tax hikes on the rich to pay debt? He's already spent every penny It's a good thing our federal government is going on a strict spending diet to curb its out-of-control borrowing. Otherwise, the latest piece of spending legislation passed Monday worth more than $50 billion might have been substantial. Good grief! Remember -- how can any of us forget? -- that long, hard fight President Obama just staged to squeeze more taxes out of wealthy Americans? The top 2% wealthiest already pay 45% of the taxes. But Democrat Obama felt they needed to pay their "fair share," despite the risks that new taxation presents to creating real jobs for the rest of us, Obama already being employed for the next 1,452 days. But who's counting? The Real Big Spender is off to Las Vegas this morning for a $1.5 million-plus photo op day-trip to sell his immigration reform ideas to a select audience that already likes it. For weeks Obama traveled the country telling anyone who would listen and some who'd rather not that he's so absolutely positively determined to cut America's $16.4 trillion national debt that he did so much to grow. And he was insistent on milking money from the rich to do just that. Well, guess what? That $50.4 billion spending bill for, among other things Hurricane Sandy aid, just ate up every single penny of that tax hike for this year, plusanother $10 billion. That will go on the debt tab that the $40 billion in new taxes were supposed to start trimming slightly this fiscal year. Obama is so happy about this new spending that he issued a special statement. Of course, he whined that the spending took so long -- Wow, almost an entire month since the Republican House hesitated and then the Senate had to fight over filibusters. But Obama promised that he would sign the bill "as soon as it hits my desk." The three governors of New Jersey, New York and Connecticut -- all Democrats, although Chris Christie used to feign conservatism -- issued a joint statement, also complaining about Washington legislators thinking twice about spending that much of China's money. They did express appreciation for the charity and especially thanked their congressional delegations for their "tenacious efforts" to get the money for the populous Democrat Northeast to rebuild. Now, everyone sympathizes with those impacted by Sandy's devastation. And a growing number also sympathize with the pathetic response of Obama's FEMA, although for some reason the media was quicker to pick up on FEMA's Katrina failures under President Bush. Read More At IBD: news.investors.com

To: combjelly who wrote (695938)	1/29/2013 10:46:18 PM
From: Bilow	4 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575193

Hi combjelly; Re: "The MWP/MCA [Medieval Warm Period / Medieval Climate Anomaly] was an anomaly. It wasn't a global phenomenon. Ditto the Little Ice Age." Sigh. Science keeps moving on but not you. You're mouthing the truths of the late 20th century. Let me put some context to this argument. When Michael Mann created the "hockey stick" back around 1998, the geologists knew it was wrong because it didn't show the MWP. Global warming fanatics like you took the alarmist viewpoint that he was right and that thousands of geologists were wrong. Since there weren't global records for the MWP Mann's argument was that the MWP was only a local phenomena, western Europe only. The political part of the alarmist message of the time was that "the science is settled". Therefore you assumed that the things you learned in 1998 about the MWP were "settled". There was no reason for you to learn anything further. What was known in 1998 was the truth. It would remain settled science forever. Wrong. The geologists won that battle. The alarmists were forced to retreat. You don't know about this because you only read extreme left wing news sources that are in deep denial about science. That is, they trumpet scientific results only when those results completely agree with them. You're basically a modern day anti-science Luddite. I'm going to link in a peer reviewed paper published in 2012. The first sentence of the paper is: "Proxy temperature reconstructions indicate that the Medieval Climate Anomaly (MCA, roughly 950–1250 AD) was warm in many parts of the world (e.g., Hughes and Diaz 1994; Mann et al. 2008, 2009; Esper and Frank 2009; Frank et al. 2010; Ljungqvist 2010; Graham et al. 2011)." Now "warm in many parts of the world" means that is was global. If this were any old paper you'd remain in denial about it. I'm sure you're thinking "oh that's just one of those denialist papers that snuck by peer review." Wrong. Here's the paper: The role of forcing and internal dynamics in explaining the “Medieval Climate Anomaly” Hugues Goosse, Elisabeth Crespin, Svetlana Dubinkina, Marie-France Loutre, Michael E. Mann, Hans Renssen, Yoann Sallaz-Damaz, Drew Shindell Climate Dynamics, December 2012, Volume 39, Issue 12, pp 2847-2866 link.springer.com Go read the article. You'll find that you're wrong about the Little Ice Age (LIA) as well. Re: "You can argue with the history all you want. The fact of the matter is that most Americans did not hear the term "climate change" until the Bush administration started to use it." Maybe most Americans learned the term from the Bush administration but the Bush administration got it from scientists. Here, read the NASA explanation (and send them a letter if you don't agree, LOL): nasa.gov -- Carl