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To: RetiredNow who wrote (130529)1/31/2013 1:30:36 PM
From: koan1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
You are mixing your ideas and logic. First you shouldn't have any student loans. Secondly, the study of the dung beetle means development of the mind. The developed mind is always is more productive for society than an undeveloped mind and engages in less crime.

The key to a developed mind is reaching intelllectual critical mass i.e. learning to learn. A bachelors degree usually achieves that.

A bachelors degree took me from not knowing what the words society and rhetoric meant to being an existentialist. I asked both my girls, one a lawyer and one a scientist, if they had changed during their first four years of college and they said they changed completely. And I had educated them pretty well before college.

It is that change that is so valuable to society and what pays society back for providing the individual with an education.

<<Not simple. Student loan default rates are at an all time high. These loans are not profitable. Why, koan? Because it has driven malinvestment in Bachelor's degrees that have no value. Degrees in the study of the migratory patterns of the dung beetle don't produce jobs.

At some point, education needs to be tied to what makes people productive to society. This utopian ideal of having everyone study whatever they want and someone else pays for it is not founded in common sense.