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Politics : Did the Great Experiment Fail? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: DMaA who wrote (361)	2/4/2013 11:33:45 AM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 926

they never expected these men to open fire on them.

To: DMaA who wrote (361)	2/4/2013 8:26:46 PM
From: Maurice Winn	2 Recommendations Respond to of 926

Their first mistake was believing it was a tyrannical government and believing their own ideology which came from having bad fathers and therefore an angry rejection of authority in general: <What mistakes did the insurgent Irish make in confronting (from their point of view) a tyrannical government. > So the first thing they did wrong was fail to check their premises. Not their houses, but the premises of their reasoning. The immediate mistake they made was to take rocks to a gun fight and heave the rocks at soldiers. Children and women should not be trying to do that. It turned out that the so-called tyrannical government was not actually tyrannical and the government had the support of most people who just wanted to live a pleasant life. Charles Manson, the Symbionese Liberation Army, Black Panthers, the Weathermen, and others have believed their own ideological manias about government tyranny and ended up the worse for wear. It was tyranny to force young men into the army to be sent against their will to kill Vietnamese. If the government was so keen to support a particular faction in South Vietnam, they should have held an auction "Wanted, young men to go to Vietnam to help Air Vice Marshal Ky maintain his power over the cash flow of Vietnam. Please place your bid for a position here". The price for the various jobs would be raised or lowered depending on the supply obtained. If not enough pilots for example could be gained at a particular price, then the offered price would be raised. If not enough riflemen were signing up to join a platoon, then the bid would be raised. Press-ganging is treating people as the property of the state. To oppose such tyranny, such as Cassius Clay being conscripted against his will, sensible and ethical strategies are required. It's not a good idea to be worse than the tyrants. The IRA were worse than the so-called tyranny, reaching a low in the Omagh bombing. The IRA bombed the Tower of London including a family of New Zealanders = children. Remembering Bloody Sunday [no children killed] is less important that remembering the Tower of London and Omagh. Mqurice