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To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (85004)2/4/2013 7:01:04 PM
From: Smiling Bob  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 119360
 
Our current leader's bold and brave action outdoes them all <Need I say this is sarcastic?>
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Obama Signs Bill Averting Government Default AP President Barack Obama has signed into law a bill raising the government's borrowing limit, averting a default and delaying the next clash over the nation's debt until later this year.



To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (85004)2/4/2013 7:02:29 PM
From: Tommaso  Respond to of 119360
 
That review is especially interesting because one of the books is a snarky righteously liberal treatment of Nixon. Or sounds to be, anyway. I was living in CA when Nixon made his ill-fated run for governor. The last couple of weeks before election day, scurrilous propaganda turned up on doorsteps all over the state. My teacher at Stanford shook his head and said, "Somehow, it always happens." Nixon denied having anything to do with it, of course. Lost anyway and made his "kick around" speech.

Of course, after the Cuban missile crisis the previous month, none of this seemed very important just then. I was just glad not be fried meat.



To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (85004)2/4/2013 7:06:43 PM
From: No Mo Mo3 Recommendations  Respond to of 119360
 
You could argue that Nixon was only doing what he had to. There were a lot of people in the streets in those days, and the means to nullify/confuse their messages were not as sophisticated as they are now. Media wasn't as consolidated. You might also say the populace wasn't quite as blinded by bread and circuses, either.

Nixon may have signed off on some progressive legislation, but he didn't like it. His approval ratings over SE Asia were abysmal so he gave into some major progressive causes like NEPA, Clean Water and Air, etc.

This whole thing is excellent, but ~ 20:00 - 22:00 illustrate the point.

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karl popper

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writes about it in

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uh... the open society and its enemies

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uh...

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you know i actually proper has a great lining said that

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that the question is not how do you get good people to rule that's the wrong

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question

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most people attracted to power according to proper art best mediocre

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which is obama

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or venal which is harper

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the question

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is how do you make the power elite frightened of you

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that is the question

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and you do that

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by creating movements that hold fast

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to moral imperative to invent a writes about this in this book but reason of

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intellectuals

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when he says that we all have a choice in life

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between serving two sets of principles

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either privilege and power

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or justice and truth

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but the more

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those of us who are committed to justice and truth make concessions

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to those who serve privilege and power

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the more we diminish

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the capacity protest disinterest

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and that was and i think the failing

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of the left

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certainly in my country

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is that we forgot

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that is not part dropped a card is a great

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moment

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in kissinger is memoirs do not buy the book

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where its nineteen seventy one

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and there's a huge antiwar demonstration outside the white house

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and nixon

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who by the way was our last liberal president

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because he was still scared of movements

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both show the mine safety act the clean water hall came under next

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so white house is ringed with empty buses

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and nixon standing about any window with kissinger looking out

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wringing his hands

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going

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henry

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henry

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they're gonna break through the barricades and get us

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and that's just what we want people in power



To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (85004)2/5/2013 6:22:32 PM
From: Tommaso  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 119360
 
I was in a conversation a day or two ago with a man (though he seemed to me more like a teenager) who is maybe 42 years old, who offered the opinion that David McCullough (aged 80 this year) could not have written his recent book "The Greater Journey" himself because he was too old. This person had not read the book.

When I hear an opinion like that, I find myself so stultified ("turned into a fool") that I have nothing to say. If I had been warned in advance, I might have said: "What is amazing is not so much that he had the energy to write the book, as that you are do not seem to have the energy to read it."

In fact, McCullough makes very limited use of editorial assistants or researchers. In that book, he hardly needed any. He just located and used all the letters and diaries that no one else had made use of.

There have in fact been some critical, almost hostile reviews of the book. No one has dared to suggest that other people wrote McCullough's book for him other than this jerk that I had the misfortune to encounter.