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To: tejek who wrote (697385)	2/5/2013 1:26:04 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572771

Maybe you enjoy being contrary..........taking a stance that is opposite of the people with whom you are communicating. The topics presented here are generally controversial. I don't see any point in echoing someone elses view. I would rather just rec it... including rec'ing an lol when I see the humor. I am not always contrary but I try to always present another point of view, even if it is just another piece of the puzzle. I am nagged as you put it because you are trying to convince me that guns is a minor problem in this country and there are more important problems that require our attention........as if that attention is limited. Not only do you sound like a winger but its a very narrow view of what's happening in this country. I don't think guns are a minor problem, so I couldn't have been trying to convince you of that. I have been trying to convince you that there are more than one issue related to guns. I've narrowed it down to 2 issues for the sake of argument. 1) The right to bear arms has a long and good history of what makes our society strong. 2) Criminal use of guns is a separate problem. Everyone would like to stop criminals from weilding guns. I've pointed out that focusing on conservatives who value their gun rights is a distraction from getting to a more serious problem, which is guns in the hands of people with criminal intent. You (and other anti-gun people) refuse to consider the issues separately so we have this huge noise making devise going back and forth between conservatives (who are no threat) and left-wingers who just want a win for the team. You treat decent people as though they are the problem, which they are not, and we go round and round accomplishing nothing (except selling more guns in one month than were sold in the previous three years). Doesn't that seem counter productive to the cause? Not only do you sound like a winger but its a very narrow view of what's happening in this country. Granted on this particular issue I am solidly backing conservatives. Do you imagine your view as broad or open minded?

To: tejek who wrote (697385)	2/6/2013 3:34:24 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572771

And just for the record, if there is a liberal side to you, you hide it well. Your records are tainted... but that is fixable. What you refer to as left-wing politics has sunk far into ice cold lock step coercive control. An oppressive collective control that is subtle, nuanced, and filled with overbearing intimidation, which I don't consider as liberal in the genuine sense at all. What it is, is Orwellian and a simple political designation (definition d below). And if that is what you are referring to, then yes I want nothing to do with it. lib·er·al adj. 1. a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. c. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism. d. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States. My liberal side is not hidden, it just doesn't meet the collective thinking criteria insisted upon by left-wing politics. I consciously consider social issues on the basis of, what course of action would truly be beneficial and good (in the sense of just, kind, and advantageous). That isn't hard, it just requires an independent and free spirit approach to thinking things through. I have been at the forefront of many social change efforts during my life time. I'm not going to go through a laundry list for you but I have spent my life involved with social movements and protesting bad establishment agendas. I don't do anything without giving issues genuine liberal consideration. For example, even though I have turned away from communalism, I lived a communal lifestyle 40 years ago ... I figured why not give it a chance, especially in that era where there was no doubt the established conventions were flawed and corrupted. I am not shy about supporting ideas that I think are worthy of consideration, or supporting others in doing the same even when I don't agree with their POV. I can do that because I don't consider my self tied to a political group's ideology. I don't give a crap about what your party spokespersons or the Carl Roves, or any other paid pundit has to say about a political issue, I can think for my self.