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To: Horgad who wrote (85414)2/12/2013 10:57:28 AM
From: TH  Respond to of 119361
 
H,

I agree with your thoughts. It is just there are better people to address this question, as my knowledge is very limited.

I do know that Kasparov thinks the Deep Blue team cheated. And he has some legitimate reasons to hold that position.

GT
TH



To: Horgad who wrote (85414)2/12/2013 10:57:46 AM
From: Travis_Bickle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 119361
 
And now for a bit of news that you (and I) will almost certainly not understand: scientists at the University of Washington say they’ve devised a test that may prove whether or not the lives we live are actually just one giant computer simulation created by our future descendants.

psmag.com

Sometimes I feel bad for whoever got stuck with me as their avatar in the simulation



To: Horgad who wrote (85414)2/12/2013 12:17:03 PM
From: Giordano Bruno  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 119361
 
Imagine the capabilities of a very old, very advanced computer.

repubblica.it

Then run the odds of the 2004 tsunami happening on Christmas day.
Odds can take coincidence out of the picture.



To: Horgad who wrote (85414)2/13/2013 12:12:19 PM
From: Joseph Silent  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 119361
 
This may very well be ......... who can say what the future holds? There is, however, a very important

step missing in that picture you have painted.

Yes. I can write a program that outsmarts the world's best human chess-player. That is because a human cannot hold the entire subtree that a particular move generates, and must work with limited memory intuition, knowledge and creativity. A computer simply holds all required possibilities for that move,and makes choices in a way that guarantees optimality. It would be like asking a human to run faster than a car.

We have unbounded creativity with organic limitations. Computers have zero (or bounded? Yet to be shown!) creativity and no organic limitations.

The problem is here: how does a computer learn how to solve a new problem? We are very far (if there is a distance involved) from a computer learning how to play tic-tac-toe. If we get there we can start to think about how it might learn to play chess or learn to solve useful problems.

We are very far from those spaces now, even though the ability of technology to surround us with gizmos clouds our perception of what is possible.

:)