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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (38251)2/18/2013 11:18:06 PM
From: Wharf Rat1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
Yup.

Did you see where Sahara dust fertilizes the Amazon? It does that to the ocean in between them, too.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (38251)2/19/2013 12:16:05 PM
From: Maurice Winn2 Recommendations  Respond to of 86356
 
The lack of logic in climate "science" is surprising [given they claim to be scientists]. Your logic was quite correct regarding <You say that phytoplankton is declining because of climate change. I say it's because of limitations of critical trace nutrient. This argument is more credible than yours because when those nutrients are augmented, we see immediate growth in phytoplankton. >

As you went on to discuss, simply claiming it's climate change is not enough. They need to come up with a mechanism. Sea level change won't do it, 0.7 degrees won't do it, reduction in pH by the amount that it has reduced doesn't do it. The oceans are not acidic no matter how many times they complain about acidfication.

I go to the beach and there are megatons of shells everywhere. Acids don't coexist with shells. The shells would dissolve. The oceans are alkaline. The shells dissolve very slowly.

Once a plant has enough water or other requirement, adding more won't help growth. Adding more iron does get the plants growing.

Phytoplankton is obviously a very big deal in CO2 processing given the size of the oceans. The Amazon which is considered the lungs of the earth is tiny compared with just the Atlantic Ocean.

Iron, sulphur and oxygen [to make iron sulphate] are cheap and available in vast amounts. Desulphurisation of fuels has resulted in a lot of the stuff. Recycling it back to phytoplankton seems to be a good idea if it's cheap enough.

If cheap high sulphur fuels were used on ships, with the exhaust blown through iron in water, the iron sulphate could be reinjected to the exhaust and blown all over the ocean. Maybe simply spraying a fine aerosol would do the trick near enough for government work.

Mqurice