To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (33224 ) 2/21/2013 12:47:24 PM From: Brumar89 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300 Associating them with Manson? Well, they were of the same social group in the same place at the same time .... I'd say chance and circumstanced might have associated them ... whether they were or weren't it would be a matter of accident.tolerating bullying of boys who weren't gung-ho, or flag waving, militaristic Jesus followers Ah come on, at least try to make up a believable fairy tale ... I knew boy scouts and they were poindexters. What you describe is a liberals ignorant fantasy there. They had uniforms so they must be militaristic. The scout oath mentions doing their duty to God so they must be fanatic Jesus freaks.We weren't the kids with guns or knives Well where did the liberals get their guns? Rat has a shotgun, says he'll use it to run off any landman that comes around. The other day Koan said he shot a fawn in his late 20's and tried to kill its mom and dad. Bentway has a sawed off shotgun rigged to carry under a coat on a string .... why do such peaceful gentle folks arm themselves thataway?smart enough to know that fookers with swastikas were fascists and/or mentally ill Manson didn't have a swastika when he and his hippie girls were hanging with Dennis Wilson and Neil Young, sharing dope and pussy with they. Dope and hippy pussy ... that's all the folks like we've been discussing cared about ... it's bull trying to pretend they were some super enlightened souls. Neil Young was impressed by Manson just like Dennis Wilson was: Young remembers Manson as being “a little uptight, a little too intense. Frustrated artist.” (McDonough, 287) However, when Manson picked up his guitar and played a few songs, Young was strongly impressed: “[He] made up songs as he went along, new stuff all the time, no two songs were the same.” (ibid.) Young recommended Manson to Mo Ostin, president of Warner Brothers, but it never got any further. Reminiscing years later, Young was clearly still somewhat enthralled by Manson’s force of personality: “He was an angry man. But brilliant… He sounds like Dylan when he talks.” (McDonough, 288) He went even further: “He’s like one of the main movers and shakers of time – when you look back at Jesus and all these people, Charlie was like that.” (ibid.) 1974: “Revolution Blues” On Young’s 1974 album On the Beach, he included a song about Manson, “ Revolution Blues ”, culminating in the couplet: “I hear that Laurel Canyon is full of famous stars/ But I hate them worse than lepers, and I’ll kill them in their cars.” Subtle it’s not, but a pretty extreme sentiment for a rock star, one illustrating just how far Young has deviated from the gently melancholic country rock, the “Heart of Gold”-type stuff, that is still what he is most publicly known for. For his part, Manson said in a 1995 interview from prison in California that all his old musician friends “didn’t give a sh*t” – except Neil Young, who once gave him a motorcycle. (McDonough, 287) When Young’s biographer related this to Young, he seemed oddly pleased to have won Manson’s approval: “So Charlie remembers me too, huh? Everybody else ripped him off. I gave him a motorcycle. I turn out to be a good guy.” (ibid.) McDonough, Jimmy, Shakey: Neil Young’s Biography (Random House, 2002) Bugliosi, Vincent, Helter Skelter (Arrow Books, 1992) Read more at Suite101: The Relationship Between Neil Young and Charles Manson | Suite101 http://suite101.com/article/the-relationship-between-neil-young-and-charles-manson-a359623#ixzz2LYYWA5Kv