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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (33446)	2/27/2013 12:39:28 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 69300

Brumar is part of the same group that is still yelling at hippies "get a job" or "take a bath." Those would be the same poverty stricken god intoxicated bums that Nero may or may not have thrown to the lions, for all those "eye witness" accts he keeps floundering up with . Whatever "chistians" there were in Rome at that early time were all probably few , unemployeed & very poor , looked at by their fellow jews as outkasts & good for nothing blasphemers. They assuredly smelled, lice infested & dressed poorly & filled with all manner of cult stories & god intoxicated yarns shunned & shunted to the fringes. But we wouldn't want to disturb brumar with any facts, his head has been exploding enough these last few weeks.

To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (33446)	2/27/2013 2:29:41 PM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

I've never shouted at a hippie in my life. I witnessed as a young person idiots who thought taking drugs brought spiritual enlightenment, who thought the highest moral imperative was "if it feels good, do it," and who knew they were life's noblemen, the most enlightened people on earth. Many of those went through life ruining their own life, their girlfriends lives, their childrens lives ... and they've never grown up. They're people I've always shook my head at. What fools. Just think a minute of the people in the iconic Wavy Gravy's (one of Kesey's Merry Pranksters) Hog Farm commune who took part in orgys with the 13 yo Diane Lake and gave her drugs and their permission to go off with the Manson family. Cautious Optimist, Rat, and Mars all believe those folks were morally superior to most of the people in this country ... who are rednecks, okies, virtual Nazis. Well, you know Diane Lake's story now. Let me ask you, can you acknowledge that what happened to her during childhood couldn't have been a secret unknown to the rest of Wavy Gravy's commune? Can you acknowledge that instead of being mankind's noble spirits, these people were just a bunch of moral degenerates? Or are you incapable of letting this story of a real life girl raised in the midst of the hippie subculture of the 60's affect your cast in concrete ideas?