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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (701379)2/27/2013 7:46:01 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1579906
 
Obama was president in 2009. Maybe you didn't know.


I guess you don't know that the first year every president operates under a budget from the previous administration...

How else could it be? The fiscal year ends in September. You can't really expect the budget to be influenced by someone who hasn't been elected yet.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (701379)2/27/2013 8:01:53 PM
From: FJB  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579906
 
Obammy promised to cut Bush's deficits in half in 2008.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (701379)2/28/2013 1:21:20 AM
From: SilentZ1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1579906
 
>Obama was president in 2009. Maybe you didn't know.

Oh, don't play dumb. You know that the budget is determined the year before. That budget was passed in June, 2008. Obama was not President then.

>If a Republican spends $400B more than he's taking in, it's bad because it must be on wars.

Well, yeah, and it's also bad that a Democrat spent it on wars, too. But Obama's been ending that.

>But if a Democrat spends $1.2T more than he's taking in, it's good because it must be for food, shelter, and lowering sea levels.

Obama has barely increased spending! The deficit ended up ballooning because of reduced tax revenues due to the recession and due to Obama's tax cuts to try to stimulate the economy. Fact.

But I'm not a deficit hawk, and I've never been one. I just don't like pissing money away. War? Pissing money away in the worst way possible. Food stamps? Unemployment? Infrastructure? Alternative energy? In my mind, those things are worthwhile expenditures. There are responsible ways of using a credit card...

However, Obama does continue to waste money on a lot of the things Bush (and previous Presidents) did. When all is said and done, almost a quarter of our budget is spent on "defense."

>This is EXACTLY the kind of mentality that will keep the federal debt ticking upwards for decades to come. The current old geezers in Washington won't have to deal with it, but our generation will.

Have you noticed that the deficit has been shrinking considerably from year to year? I believe that 2013 is now forecast to be half of 2009.

>Why do you insist on continuing the same kind of insanity you see in Washington?

I'm going to put it like Charlie Pierce does. "Fuck the deficit. People got no jobs, people got no money."

Get employment (and therefore tax revs) back where they were in the late Clinton/early Bush years, and we'd be working with a much smaller deficit. But we may need to make a ton of investments to get there!

And another point, without "the same kind of insanity you see in Washington," we wouldn't have lots of the great stuff we have today. I just spent 30 hours in the last week driving the Interstates. What a system!

-Z



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (701379)2/28/2013 11:44:35 AM
From: bentway  Respond to of 1579906
 
Dennis Rodman, Kim Jong Un Chill, Watch Basketball
EX-BASKETBALL STAR IS FIRST AMERICAN KIM HAS MET WITH

By Mark Russell, Newser Staff
newser.com
Posted Feb 28, 2013 9:39 AM CST

(NEWSER) – Maybe John Kerry should wear a feathered boa and rebound more. North Korea's young leader Kim Jong Un has met with exactly zero American diplomats in the 14 months since his father died, but today he sat with Dennis Rodman to watch a basketball game involving North Korean players and the Harlem Globetrotters, reports China's Xinhua. The game—between 12 North Korean players and four Globetrotters—reportedly ended in a 110-110 tie.

Throughout the game, Rodman was seated to Kim's left, and the two talked and laughed without translators. "Although relations between the two countries are regrettable, personally I am a friend of Marshal Kim Jong Un and the DPRK people," said Rodman, according to Xinhua. The Rodman love might run in the family: Gawker has a '90s-era photo of Kim's little brother in a Rodman jersey. Meanwhile, someone could give Rodman a little geography lesson, after he confused North and South Korea in a tweet, reports the USA Today. After Rodman tweeted that he hoped to meet rapper Psy, the "Gangnam Style" star quickly responded with, "I'm from #SOUTH man!!!"