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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (38583)	2/27/2013 7:30:56 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

My income will be high enough to make half my social security taxable under current law. As far as giving it back, like Warren Buffet, I will prefer to direct it to my choice of charities. I don't think there's even a way to return social security benefits ... you can donate money to the government's general fund though. But there's no way to prevent Democrats from spending it on trivialities or giving it to contributers, like Obama did to a lot of his campaign bundlers.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (38583)	2/27/2013 7:35:27 PM
From: Brumar89	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 86356

Solar Panels Are Full Of Carcinogens How can you guarantee your toxic solar panels will never poison California's ground water? You plan on making sure they're buried in concrete someday right? But how long will concrete protect the ground water? FEB 27 Posted by Tory Aardvark Solar Panel manufacture like wind turbines produces large amounts of heavy metal pollution Wind and Solar, the flagship renewable energy icons of the warming alarmists, crony capitalists and rent seekers sold, as solving all the worlds energy needs in a clean Green way. Renewables are neither clean nor Green, the use of heavy metals in their manufacture make this another Green lie, the wind turbine lie was hidden half a world a way in China, where the town of Batou is surrounded by a huge lagoon of toxic chemicals from the manufacture of magnets for wind turbines. The truth about the use of cadmium and other toxic chemicals in the manufacture of solar panels has now floated to the surface in the that most carcinogen obsessed of countries, the United States. In the wake of yet another Obama funded clean-tech disaster like Solyndra a solar panel manufacturer in Colorado has gone bankrupt: Colorado-based Abound Solar has been ordered to remove and bury in cement thousands of leftover solar panels “deemed unsellable” by the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE). The company must also clean up other hazardous waste at a number of facilities statewide, according to the Northern Colorado Business Report (NCBR). The waste is deemed so hazardous that it must be buried in concrete, which makes a complete nonsense of solar being environmentally friendly, not to mention the irony of Green solar panels being rendered safe from causing environmental damage by being encased in that most environmentally unfriendly of materials, concrete. State health officials pointed to the carcinogenic metal cadmium in the panels as the source of concern. “At the time of the inspection these 2,000 pallets of solar panels were deemed unsellable and a viable agreement for reclamation of the solar panels was not evident,” the inspector’s report says. “Therefore, the department views these 2,000 pallets of solar panels as a characteristic hazardous waste for cadmium.” The company concerned, Abound Solar, at the height of solar panel production was producing around 630 pounds of cadmium polluted materials every month, Abound Solar’s warehouse is reckoned to still have 4000 gallons of cadmium contaminated liquids stored inside. As the environmentalists would have us believe solar is Green, tree huggingly lovely and adorable, so it naturally follows that those who manufacture these expensive monuments to Green tokenism and folly would also treat the environment in the way that Gaia would approve of. Following the company’s bankruptcy, an investigation by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) revealed that the warehouse in Denver storing the unsold panels did not have a hazardous waste permit. The cleanup, NCBR reports, will require encasement and burial: There’s only one treatment facility in the state, a landfill near Last Chance in eastern Adams County. The panels would likely be treated, mixed in cement and buried, Schieffelin said. Violating state hazardous waste regulations carries an administrative fine of as much as $15,000 daily and a civil fine of as much as $25,000 per violation per day, according to the state. The news report concluded, “Any [Abound] panels that cannot find a buyer would be deemed hazardous waste.” Thus far the state of Colorado has not imposed the fines, hoping instead that Abound Solar would actually get the clean up done. Abound still faces a fraud investigation as well as a Congressional document probe after a Daily Caller report in October revealed faulty and defective panels that suffered “catastrophic failure.” It does make you wonder who, are more to the point how, will these monuments to Climate Religion, like solar panels and wind turbines be disposed of, in an environmentally friendly way at the end of their service life. The future for solar seems to be huge landfill sites full of concrete keeping cadmium and other heavy metals out of ground water supplies and the environment as a whole, it goes without saying the Greens will never ever mention this aspect of their solar dream. The outlook for removal of renewable infrastructure is not optimistic, the US has 14000 abandoned wind turbines that no one knows how to, or has the will to remove. toryaardvark.com