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To: jlallen who wrote (38638)	2/28/2013 2:18:19 PM
From: Brumar89	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

Dwarf Rat ... I like that.

To: jlallen who wrote (38638)	2/28/2013 5:55:40 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 86356

.the problem is that the type of ignorance displayed by those particular morons is really of a type which is ineducable....and you are wasting your time The problem is that will just continue to post their pseudo-scientific propaganda anyway.. And especially with regard to Land Shark, who has no problem banning people who provide a dissident view on his moderated thread, but has no problem spamming this thread. If we just ignore it, instead of confronting it with scientific facts and research, we risk creating the impression that they are correct. Or that we're just too tired to confront their BS.. Additionally, as my recent exchange with WR revealed, he's belief in Gaia revealed the superstitious and dysfunctional logic upon which he is presenting his perspective. We can all have our own particular religious viewpoints, but for me, science reveals God, not the other way around... By asserting his faith and belief in Gaia, he has essentially launched into the environmental version of the "Scope's Trial".. And I'm sure a lot of people's eyes "glaze over" when I start discussing Iron Fertilization and Phytoplankton. But the issue directly factors into undermining the argument of those folks claiming that CO2 is pollution and requires a carbon tax. IMO, phytoplankton depletion is a more grievous threat because it directly impacts the marine food chain.. But seeing the direct correlation between oceanic Algal depletion and the rise of atmospheric CO2 is more than just coincidence. IF, and only IF, phytoplankton decline is the result of industrial CO2 emissions exhausting the available supply of Trace Iron due to excessive photosynthesis, then we have an obligation to replenish that supply of iron to maintain the ecological balance and marine food supply. IF such fertilization was able to restore the balance phytoplankton, and therefore likely restoring the atmospheric CO2 balance, it could have far-reaching implications for global energy policy and dramatically reduce economic costs when compared to current policies being implemented. If anything, I think it's a topic that needs to be discussed. I've had any number of conversations with individuals who think they really understand the AGW argument. But when I bring up the issue of phytoplankton decline in relation to atmospheric CO2 increases and/or how Iron Fertilization could be a potential solution, most have never heard of the theory. They are all either so myopic, or biased, that they have failed to research it. In sum.. I can suggest this.. even if AGW never truly manifests itself in the face of rising CO2 levels, the decline in phytoplankton we've seen is going to have catastrophic impacts on the marine food chain and all the creatures (including humanity) who depend upon it for survival. It's a "tragedy of the commons" scenario that is currently in progress.. And it's not going to go away, IMO until we take steps to do something about it.. Hawk