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To: GST who wrote (86424)3/1/2013 12:15:25 AM
From: Broken_Clock3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 119362
 
The great gun control fallacyAfter Newtown's tragedy, the advocates are at it again. But there just is no correlation between gun ownership and murder rates


Thomas Sowell
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 18 December 2012 10.35 EST Jump to comments (1026)


Pro-gun control protest outside NRA office in Washington, DC. Photograph: Jim Lo Scalzo/EPA

Must every tragic mass shooting bring out the shrill ignorance of "gun control" advocates?

The key fallacy of so-called gun control laws is that such laws do not in fact control guns. They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people bent on violence find firearms readily available.

If gun control zealots had any respect for facts, they would have discovered this long ago, because there have been too many factual studies over the years to leave any serious doubt about gun control laws being not merely futile but counterproductive.

Places and times with the strongest gun control laws have often been places and times with high murder rates. Washington, DC, is a classic example, but just one among many.

When it comes to the rate of gun ownership, that is higher in rural areas than in urban areas, but the murder rate is higher in urban areas. The rate of gun ownership is higher among whites than among blacks, but the murder rate is higher among blacks. For the country as a whole, handgun ownership doubled in the late 20th century, while the murder rate went down.

The few counter-examples offered by gun control zealots do not stand up under scrutiny. Perhaps their strongest talking point is that Britain has stronger gun control laws than the United States and lower murder rates.

But, if you look back through history, you will find that Britain has had a lower murder rate than the United States for more than two centuries – and, for most of that time, the British had no more stringent gun control laws than the United States. Indeed, neither country had stringent gun control for most of that time.

In the middle of the 20th century, you could buy a shotgun in London with no questions asked. New York, which at that time had had the stringent Sullivan Law restricting gun ownership since 1911, still had several times the gun murder rate of London, as well as several times the London murder rate with other weapons.

Neither guns nor gun control was not the reason for the difference in murder rates. People were the difference.

Yet many of the most zealous advocates of gun control laws, on both sides of the Atlantic, have also been advocates of leniency toward criminals.

In Britain, such people have been so successful that legal gun ownership has been reduced almost to the vanishing point, while even most convicted felons in Britain are not put behind bars. The crime rate, including the rate of crimes committed with guns, is far higher in Britain now than it was back in the days when there were few restrictions on Britons buying firearms. In 1954, there were only a dozen armed robberies in London but, by the 1990s – after decades of ever tightening gun ownership restrictions – there were more than a hundred times as many armed robberies.

Gun control zealots' choice of Britain for comparison with the United States has been wholly tendentious, not only because it ignored the history of the two countries, but also because it ignored other countries with stronger gun control laws than the United States, such as Russia, Brazil and Mexico. All of these countries have higher murder rates than the United States.

You could compare other sets of countries and get similar results. Gun ownership has been three times as high in Switzerland as in Germany, but the Swiss have had lower murder rates. Other countries with high rates of gun ownership and low murder rates include Israel, New Zealand, and Finland.

Guns are not the problem. People are the problem – including people who are determined to push gun control laws, either in ignorance of the facts or in defiance of the facts.

There is innocent ignorance and there is invincible, dogmatic and self-righteous ignorance. Every tragic mass shooting seems to bring out examples of both among gun control advocates.



To: GST who wrote (86424)3/1/2013 12:21:08 AM
From: Broken_Clock4 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 119362
 
MEXICO PROVES STRICT GUN LAWS WON’T PREVENT MASSACRES
Aug. 23, 2012 11:28am1121.2K60 34
SYLVIA LONGMIREDrug War Analyst

Sylvia Longmire is a former Air Force officer and Special Agent, and former senior border security analyst for the State of California. She is currently a […]

More than 53,000 people have been murdered in Mexico in the last six years—most of them by a variety of pistols, rifles, and assault weapons owned by Mexican drug cartels. While the exact number of firearms in circulation in Mexico eludes everyone, we know tens of thousands are seized every year by Mexican authorities.

These facts and figures might lead one to believe that it’s easy for cartels to buy or otherwise acquire guns in Mexico. In fact, Mexico has some of the strictest gun control laws on the entire planet—as well as one of the planet’s highest annual death tolls as a result of gun violence.

After the tragic July 20th shooting at an Aurora, Colorado movie theater during a midnight showing of “The Dark Knight Rises,” no time was wasted by individuals on both sides of the gun control debate in the U.S., in airing their views on the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of gun control in preventing another public massacre. The same exact thing happened after the shooting of US Representative Gabrielle Giffords—as well as 18 innocent bystanders—in Tucson, Arizona in January 2011.

It’s hard to argue against the fact that it’s relatively easy to purchase a wide variety of firearms in several U.S. states. The night James Holmes killed 12 people and injured 58 others in Aurora, he was carrying an assault rifle, a shotgun, and two handguns—all of which he purchased legally, as he had no criminal history, and no evidence (on paper, anyway) of being mentally ill. He also purchased hundreds of rounds of ammunition and ballistic protective gear online, also legally.
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So the question becomes, would stricter gun controls, or at least an outright ban on assault- or military-style weapons, have prevented this? One place we can look to for an answer is Mexico.

Contrary to popular belief, Mexico’s constitution has its own version of our Second Amendment. However, few private citizens own firearms. Federal laws have severely restricted the ability to own and carry weapons to soldiers, police, trained bodyguards, and a few others who can make it through the miles-long gauntlet of the application process. If a Mexican citizen can survive the background checks, the mountains of paperwork, the half-dozen required personal recommendations, and the expense, they are limited to buying guns with low stopping power.

There is also only one gun shop in Mexico where they can legally purchase firearms, and it’s in Mexico City—not exactly a close drive for many Mexicans.

Cartels rely heavily on heavy-duty firepower to protect themselves from rivals, prevent encroachment on their territory, do battle with police and the military, and protect drug and cash shipments. As long as the drug war rages, there will be a high demand for firearms in Mexico. As such, Mexican cartels turn to countries where they can cheaply and easily obtain weapons on the black market. These days, those countries include the United States, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and countries in South America and Asia.

Here is where the temptation appears to use strict gun control in the U.S. as a way to also mitigate violence in Mexico. This is a very naïve approach, which assumes that violence in Mexico relies almost completely on the availability of firearms in the U.S.. While we do know that a considerable amount of firearms seized and successfully traced in Mexico were sold in the US, we don’t know—and will never know—what proportion of all guns in Mexico those account for. That approach also assumes that Mexican cartels have few other sources for weapons.

Even if the US government were to make the extremely unlikely (and unconstitutional) decision to ban all firearms in the U.S., the drug war in Mexico, and the related gun violence, would continue unabated.

We should also not be basing our gun laws on the security needs of another country. While the Mexican government would be thrilled at any new gun control initiatives here, and stricter U.S gun laws may have a mild, short-term deterrent effect in Mexico (and this is questionable), that’s not why they should be debated. Finding the right balance between public security and our constitutional rights should always come first in that debate.

Bad, sick people—whether they are psychopathic drug traffickers in Mexico or mentally unstable social misfits in the U.S.—will always want to kill others. Criminals sometimes acquire guns legally because no amount of checking or legal controls would be able to determine their intent. Many times, like in Mexico, they acquire them illegally just as easily with no regard for gun laws in their country.

Ultimately, the violence in Mexico will be reduced not because of the extremely limited domestic availability of guns, but because of the strengthening of government and social institutions, and the reduction of widespread corruption. Massacres like the one in Colorado can likewise be prevented not because of the enactment of strict gun control measures, but a willingness to examine our society, reach out to potentially troubled friends and family members, and act on our gut instinct when its telling us something—or someone—isn’t quite right.



Sylvia Longmire is a former senior border security analyst for the State of California. She is currently a consultant, correspondent for Homeland Security Today magazine, and author of Cartel: The Coming Invasion of Mexico’s Drug Wars.