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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (38767)	3/7/2013 12:48:41 AM
From: Hawkmoon	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

Wharf Rat.. I asked you to post to me as a public response, not private.. I have no desire to engage in some private "one on one" with you.. if you have some point you wish to debate, do it publicly.. So here's the private post you sent me.. ""you're climate scientists have had their worst fears about Global Warming proven wrong over these past 16 years, so their credibility is lacking".. That's a lie. What is happening now is beyond their worst fears. Turns out they are conservatives at heart. Here are just a few examples. study handed to the U.N. on the "irreversible" thawing of permafrost shows that it is happening faster than climate change scientists had ever dared now.msn.com Sea levels rising more quickly than predicted, warn scientists independent.co.uk The Arctic is warming faster than predicted Posted on February 5, 2013 by Rick naturalfabricsclothing.com WASHINGTON — The effects of climate change driven by human activity are spreading through the United States faster than has been predicted, increasingly threatening infrastructure, water supplies, crops and shorelines, according to a review of climate science and its effects by a federal advisory committee. gloucestertimes.com Plants flower faster than climate change models predict By Matt McGrath Science reporter, BBC World Service bbc.co.uk = That's why it's called "Climate Change" now.. not Global Warming.. Because the evidence is not (yet) supporting their predictions.. That's another lie. It's cuz RW pollster Frank Luntz thought is was a warmer and fuzzier term, and therefore easier to fight. The new label "climate change" was coined by Frank Luntz, an advisor to the Republican Party. Below are excerpts from this 2002 memo to President George W. Bush titled "The Environment: A Cleaner, Safer, Healthier America". Frank Luntz was employed by the public relations company APCO International, which also worked for the tobacco industry, and helped launching the Friends of Science. Frank Luntz has since changed his position on global warming. friendsofginandtonic.org