To: LoneClone who wrote (21199 ) 3/7/2013 7:55:01 PM From: marcos 2 Recommendations Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 24928 Have you ever wondered what the world would be like without hypothetical situations? ... Crispy would still be on the way out, yup, pretty much for sure, hard to say if she'd ever had a chance without stating any degree of openness to the pipeline, probably not but proponents are gonna find her replacement far less agreeable ... and nobody will want SoCal any more than now, mexicans too will continue to stress that it is in no fashion a goal of La Reconquista Kastel - too bad Sir John Eh is not still around, but i think it quite likely that if he were, he'd be retired out here to Lotusland, taking advantage of whatever degree to which he'd been able to preserve the place from descending into a US state or an asian slum, and quite likely piddling about in boats on a coast he'd prefer to keep free of toxic goop, thank you very much ... btw, it was me who reccoed your post by mistake, meant to hit mark as last read kidl - no it was Crispy's fifth point that in few words addressed the question of quid pro quo ... as is usual in these things, that's why they call it 'the bottom line' ... think the first three were risk/safety and the fourth was indian treaties, there will be links out there to original text ... reason you may have thought the order was otherwise, is that her suggestion of anything other than a completely one-sided all-risk no-reward deal for BC was what got ballyhooed to the moon by albertan and oil industry types, it was apparently all Redford heard and she hit the roof, poor reading/comprehension skills i guess, and quick to mouth them up as well, of course you do need to cut her some slack, she was born in Kitimat ... only ones who see it the same way still seem to be you and Kastel - what BCians heard in those five points, and remember clearly, was that CC stated that under certain defined circumstances her govt was open to the concept of a pipeline - there are many here, hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, who will never forgive her for that ... i am not one of these people, but i know enough about them to see how stupid and futile the approaches to them have been so far In other news - 1. a refinery is not a 'windfall', it's a huge ugly expensive dirty monster that does not Come by Chance, and 2. Enbridge record sucks, you want a pipeline west, you need better front men with a better thought out proposal, and try to get the oil from somewhere they have decent reading and business skills