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To: longnshort who wrote (18102)3/13/2013 6:17:34 PM
From: SmoothSail  Respond to of 23934
 
I had BVMs (Blessed Virgin Marys) in grammar school and Immaculate Hearts in high school. A world of difference. The BVMs were mean and the IHMs wonderful people. Some of them are still good friends. I served on their Board of Trustees for 12 years and really got to know them. Can't say enough good things about them.

They have an interesting story: This is from Wiki but doesn't tell the real story.

James Cardinal McIntyre of Los Angeles insisted that if the IHM Sisters were to continue teaching in the schools of the archdiocese, they would have to maintain a number of rules he believed were essential to female community life. The sisters, in turn, objected to the Archbishop dictating their attribe, bedtimes, and hours of prayer. [6] [7] The Vatican congregation that oversaw religious life refused to intervene. Then-superior Anita Caspary remained firm in implementing the reform and, on February 1, 1970, roughly ninety percent followed Caspary and were dispensed from their vows. [7] [8] They went on to form a non-canonical group that admits both men and women known as the Immaculate Heart Community. An ensuing property settlement left remaining IHMs with certain properties, while those exiting obtained control of Immaculate Heart College and Immaculate Heart High School. Virtually no IHMs remained in teaching positions in the archdiocese's vast parochial school system, forefront of the exodus of religious that was soon to affect the nation's entire Roman Catholic school system.


What really happened was McIntyre wanted their very valuable property in the Hollywood Hills to build condos. They resisted and he brought in the Vatican to dictate their behavior - bedtime:10; prayer at 4 a.m. and wake up to alarm clocks instead of the Angeles Bells and do 2 hours of prayer. They pointed out that they were teaching teenagers and would run out of energy. Too bad said the cardinal. Do it. You took the vow of obedience. The nuns said no, so they were laicized. That meant no health care, no retirement, no funds at all from the church.

Because of the financial burden, they had to sell the college (to the American Film Institute) and the college ceased to be except on paper.

But they persevered and are once again thriving even though they can't call themselves nuns or a convent.