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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (82470)	3/20/2013 6:52:42 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Not giving something to someone, isn't punching someone in the nose, not even metaphorically. I agree. But the giving or not giving of something was not what I was addressing in my nose comment. That situation is a function of the federal regulation regarding health care, which is a related issue. And the government's involvement in the marriage sacrament, another related issue. I was addressing the underlying notion that discriminating against gays, for example and in general, is a legitimate expression of religious freedom, one that cannot appropriately be curtailed. they are waging a multi-pronged battle against LGBT rights, not on substantive moral grounds but on the premise that equality for gays restricts the religious liberty of Christians to discriminate against them. Assuming the facts as stated, that is substantive moral grounds. Religious liberty is a political and moral issue. I do not accept that, in the abstract, one can reasonably complain about being deprived of religious liberty (fist) when the expression of it is unequal treatment (nose) of fellow citizens. Without the government's questionable involvement in certain aspects of life there might not be any conditions that provoke said unequal treatment. One might reasonably argue against said involvement and the difficult position in which some Christians might not otherwise find themselves. I understand the gripes. Still, the notion that unequal treatment is protected as religious liberty is too much and will not resonate beyond the hard core. Two wrongs don't make a right.