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To: JeffA who wrote (132080)	3/21/2013 9:28:40 AM
From: Alex MG	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

>>>I state that the current push for banning semi automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns... blah blah blah<<< no one is trying to ban pistols and shotguns or even semi-automatic rifles... only high capacity assault weapons you are challenging someone to debate with facts when you start out spewing disinformation? where the F did you read someone is trying to ban shotguns?? or did you just make that crap up?

To: JeffA who wrote (132080)	3/21/2013 10:13:15 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 149317

"you would have to acknowledge the Second Amendment should not be being challenged by the Dems and the POTUS." It's not. Assault weapons ban is constitutional. We had one for 10 years. Guns can be regulated. Speech can be regulated. Even the most reactionary justice understands this. When you find a proposal for an amendment to repeal the second, ge back to us. Until then, quit with the bullshit. = Justice Antonin Scalia, one of the Supreme Court's most vocal and conservative justices, said on Sunday that the Second Amendment leaves room for U.S. legislatures to regulate guns, including menacing hand-held weapons. "It will have to be decided in future cases," Scalia said on Fox News Sunday. But there were legal precedents from the days of the Founding Fathers that banned frightening weapons which a constitutional originalist like himself must recognize. There were also "locational limitations" on where weapons could be carried, the justice noted. nationaljournal.com "I state that the current push for banning semi automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns is unconstitutional based on historic interpretation of the Second Amendment " You're wrong. The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB), or Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, was a subtitle of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a federal law in the United States that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms, so called " assault weapons". [1] The 10-year ban was passed by Congress on September 13, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment. The Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired on September 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision. There have been multiple attempts to renew the ban, [2] but no bill has reached the House floor for a vote. en.wikipedia.org

To: JeffA who wrote (132080)

3/21/2013 12:05:56 PM

From: koan

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<<I state that the current push for banning semi automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns is unconstitutional based on historic interpretation of the Second Amendment and the recent Court case of Emerson<<

But is it a wise course of action? The consitution is a living document. We change it all the time. Our courts even change its meaning as our cultrue evolves.

Our consitution used to allow slavery and not allow women to vote. But our supreme court and congress changed it to keep up with the times.

What kind of constitution allows slavery, segregation and doesn't allow women to vote? One that is outdated.


When I have ceased to break my wings; Against the faultiness of things; And learned that compromises wait; Behind each hardly opened gate; When I can look life in the eyes; Grown calm and very coldly wise; Life will have given me the truth; And taken in echange-my youth. From wisdom by Sara Teasdale