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To: Solon who wrote (34855)	4/5/2013 9:12:32 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 69300

A little surprised you never encountered Iqbal Latif here , the fellow i linked you to on Facebook yest & had a thread here that was the voice of reason & literacy ( He's an Iranian, as well versed in Arab/Persian history as you'll find & extremely thoughtful , ultra prolific & gifted writer, here was his thread. Subject 14747 Something Iqbal just wrote 6hrs ago he has a mind that is quite the symphonic symposium & synthesis of great ideas a pace ahead , no longer on SI because most intelects on any note left here long ago facebook.com!/ikelatif?fref=ts Great Minds Fuck Each Other Minds don't have sex, it is its by-products 'idea and thought' that have 'sex' with each other. Liu Xiaobo Chinese laureate and dissident said 'Don't stop 'Ideas' having sex with each other.' It is ideas and thoughts that have intercourse... and sex; there is nothing as 'free thought' - 'thought' is hereditarily liberated and it seeks truth. It is for this Bertrand Russell said 'Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pits of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great ... and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.'' It is edict of nature that free thought cannot be chained; it will find freedom. No chains are strong enough to shackle emancipation and liberation from totalitarianism. I wish every 'mind' tries to build a bigger tolerance for 'thinking' and work hard towards acquiring better stamina and a superior libido for bringing up new ideas.

To: Solon who wrote (34855)	4/5/2013 9:15:25 PM
From: 2MAR$	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Or he wrote this 14hrs ago, and just pours out of him but as free thinking Iranian, he takes risks with many of his professional publications When science or any thought even secular thinking becomes a "cult," persecution follows. Thought is the to be challenged, keep enquiring until 'you' pass away. Our real prophets are those who encourage free thinking based on reason and logic ! One cannot even envisage the horrors in 387 B.C. if Copernicus or Galileo entered the academy and would declare the legitimacy of the heliocentric instead ...of their preferred geocentric model of cosmology. Our desire to subject the popular wisdom of "creation" to the test of reason shall be considered by many of us as blasphemous. Noah existed 6000 years or 13.7 billions years ago; that is a miscalculation that we live with serenely, but the same obstinacy and inflexibility where freedom of thought is moderated by the Holy Scriptures leads to maniacal display of mediaevalism by extremists of the world. Rubbishing earth as the center of universe would have been considered as heretical and blasphemous in the sacrosanct environ of the academy, as it was by the clergy of Rome, nearly 2000 years later. Italian philosopher Galileo Galilei was one of the supreme figures of contemporary science. His rank as a "saint" of the modern world hinges on his discrimination by the Catholic Church for boldly championing the Copernican theory that the earth revolved around the sun, in contradiction to scripture, church tradition and the ancient authority of Aristotle and Ptolemy. It looks as if destiny has its own time scale. The overthrow of man from the central role of the keeper of the universe was not an easy acceptance by saviours of mankind. Copernicus and Galileo were not entirely correct, that it was the Sun instead at the centre of the Universe and the stars being some bright heavenly bodies of an unknown nature. It was only 'partial truth.' The truth remained concealed by the fate from the curious minds of philosophers in the multilayered shrouds of ambiguity. It was as if waiting for the genius of Bruno. Giordano Bruno is known as 'The Forgotten Philosopher' who predicted ' Infinite Galaxies, Infinite Life.' He claimed that the sun was only one star among the many thousands, and therefore, like the sun, many other stars also have planets around them and living beings inhabiting them." By the time Bruno was burned at the stake as a heretic in 1600 on Rome's Campo dei Fiori for his provocative ideas about the infinity of the universe the Inquisition, condemned him to death in Rome as part of a yearlong jubilee. Giordano Bruno is one of the enormous figures of renaissance Europe. He is an intellectual peer of the greatest thinkers, a thinker whose dream of the world foreshadowed ours. When science or any thought even secular thinking becomes a "cult," persecution follows. The Pythagoreans who followed the teachings of Pythagoras believed that science was meant only for the chosen few and that commoners should have nothing to do with it. Philosophers can be cruel too; sometimes when reason failed, persecution took over the better part of judgement. Inquisitions and burning at stake was not just a sacred preoccupation, even Pythagoras to his eternal shame sentenced Hippasus to death by drowning. Socrates was forced to drink hemlock. His peers thought he was misleading the youth because he was trying to free the minds of men. 2000 years later, Bruno was burned at the stake for declaring that the universe has billions of suns; the changes of truth do not change the bestiality of man. What one believes is guarded with coercive use of power. Till today, medieval societies use guns to silence opposition. Whenever rational logic and reason fails, persecution will survive. Therefore our real prophets are those who encourage free thinking based on reason and logic where even minor digressions and omissions should be overlooked, because debate itself reflect the higher consciousness of man and represent freedom over orthodoxy and bigotry.