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To: Giordano Bruno who wrote (51186)4/16/2013 7:54:09 AM
From: Jeff Jordan  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 71475
 
>>>Stars can't hold ethereal fluid and have never been considered occult by us.<<<

Etheric converter, inverter whatever ?

I'm trying to understand the power of the word influence and who is giving power to these words and what the source of this power is.. IMO, the Sun and Moon have always been given to be symbols of occult or esoteric meaning in the circular forms and the light given and reflected into and onto our lives in metaphor and in the rising and falling and rising again.

Now, regarding the Sun....science has told us it is a giant fission reactor burning gasses....well, in this video (below) of an unusual man and the reading of his book should he write one might be a little more interesting maybe not as interesting as a Nicolas Tesla or a Michelangelo or other great minds in our history but with an apparent understanding of Tesla at an early age as if he understood it naturally without learning says otherwise. That the Sun isn't a hot furnace and the activity we see is only on the surface this radiation and light shine through I guess like a flash light from the other side or counter-space. Thus, a gateway...and we've all heard the moon is also artificial and hollow....I've always thought it strange it doesn't spin...everything in nature spins!

So, what does it mean to be awake......I don't blame God the ultimate single source of all life and whatever space or ether is. Science will never come to understand what is invisible perhaps only that it becomes aware to them it or something is there. What is is, who can change that, what will be will be...there is no forcing things to happen or not happen. The fact that our lives are controlled is troubling to me....as I have accepted idealism in my heart as a dream or idea of what things should be....the goals of discovering the true nature and source of things and my own innocent naive childness of being. If I'm a butterfly transforming into a new creature it is by intelligent design not an accident or anomaly of nature....it is not sinful for all things to be what the are....and we apparently are special....atleast this is an innate knowing in man. Like you have said, mankind is innocent, there are forces perverting goodness and beauty and the light of the one source.....how can that stand,...these untruths... it's not a matter of understanding or power of will on our part. To me ignorance is this separation from the source. The philosopher in me says there is no separation from I like the word God and the mystery is there to be discovered....if we have the power or gift of creation it is because we are special and this life giving force is attainable within us to find and is breathed into us....the philosophers stone, or the maybe analogous to Jesus's bread of life, or thoth or Hermes flower of life.....I don't believe in death only in the changing of matter....I don't expect my skin and bones are anything more than a vehicle taking me to where I need or want to go....it is not who or what I am...as a human being or child of God or child of Light. Life is still a mystery to me, I know many people are aware of their surroundings and they don't want to change it but accept it and revel at in its beauty and preserve what they see as good.....I don't know how you can be more awake than that.

Who or what is going to save us....I ask what is going to save them.....it isn't me...or me me.<g>

I kinda expected to become more than I am.....but I suppose if I was to blame my environment and time it would be because of external influence by definition outside my control or will.....am I a mistake in God's eyes, if so,so be it. I am just me....willing to be....how can I be greater or less than myself? ....give me a space craft with no strings attached and I'll see what I can do.....LOL, call me Angel Jeff, Commander Zero...because I know nothing...I tried to be a good child and a good soul... <g><.......~jj~

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video from the beginning

I'm half way through the ringer: an extraterrestrial proving ground......I don't think I've gotten to the good part of the story yet, is there one...if, you are a prisoner like us, how can there be a happy ending in this reality?

.....this is enough for now, go with it. I'm going to finish the ringer, then decide what is on my plate for today........proof God wants us to change is there is always tomorrow in which the Sun rise begins the new day and presents us the opportunity to be and charge our batteries of life....that's why I love Spring so much, you get to see more than the promise of new life....you see life itself in its nature cycle of growth and finally maturity and fruit....wholesome nature, etc. what is this crap they are putting in my bread. God help us all. ~j~

Lone Ranger are you a hero or zero to hero wanna be? Hiddy Ho neighbor......USA , our founders understood what liberty justice and freedom truly meant...not this pull of manmade disorder and entropy

I'm still trying to understand the meaning of anodes and cathode waves......,and the image or motion picture of the universe in the thinking mind vs the real universe of the knowing mind.

I say there is only one dimension....if not, what holds other dimensions, nothing, they are in the one...you can't place a coordinate out side of it,...and call it another dimension.

We need to lose the entropy of this state and pray the Earth's ectropy is increased by the sun...this is the food of life and whatever is the source of this.....how can I help?

LOL.....getting to know the space between my ears is challenge and universe enough for me, for now...if, I find the keys to the other door I'll let you know.so you can escape, unless you have become the captain of the ark.<g>