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To: Snowshoe who wrote (100015)4/16/2013 6:38:11 PM
From: TobagoJack2 Recommendations  Respond to of 217927
 
true gold fans are not losing money

but are set up to make still more money

in exchange for doing his work, aggregating salvation that would be passed on to others

btw, am getting quite a few of these sort of e-mails

On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:41 PM, R wrote:

Dear J,

May I ask your advice on gold/precious metals, now that gold has taken a bit of a dip?
Is it a good time to buy more or is it still on the high side, price wise? Also, a friend of
mine said he has bought gold/silver and kept them in a depository in Asia - is that
safe? Heard stories of tungsten filled gold bars in Asian depositories. I know you've got
your stash, where do you store yours? Is gold certificate or mutual fund an easier way
to invest?

Thank you so much!

Best,
R



To: Snowshoe who wrote (100015)4/16/2013 6:44:40 PM
From: TobagoJack1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217927
 
the good gold times, let it roll endless like amazon



From: J
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Comments - Week of April 15 - beijing stores out of gold

my in-law is all giddy at prospect of off-loading some industrial via forced sale, and re-allocate to gold

trading something that went up by 6-7x for something that only dribble up by 2x

and perhaps to then double back, to ... ad infinitum

god is kind

especially when we do his work

From: M
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Comments - Week of April 15 - beijing stores out of gold

Had lunch with some "locals" today.
They agree that "it is time to buy some gold."

HKers are like that. They LOVE a good sale when something of high quality is offered cheap!

M

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:50 PM, J wrote:

cursory glance at the biz channels across my now tv spectrum says the china channels champion and report gold buys
and western channels denigrates and report gold sales

the war is on

very exciting

in the mean time, scmp chimes in at 4-hrs ago

When it comes to the gold price war, bullish Chinese consumers can't wait to buy.


While people in the United States and Europe are selling gold in panic, apparently it’s a very different story in the east.


As the price of gold bullion tumbled another US$125 per ounce on Monday in its biggest-ever daily loss, some retail investors in Hong Kong and mainland China considered this a rare opportunity for them to boost their personal gold reserves. Chinese media in Hong Kong and Shanghai reported that more people than usual rushed to local jewelry shops to buy gold bars causing some shops to run out of stock within just one or two days.


In percentage terms, Monday’s 9 per cent loss is the biggest since 1983 and was almost double the loss on Friday. Some investment banks, for example CLSA, estimated the price of gold could fall to as low as US$1,200 per ounce, but retail investors in Hong Kong and mainland China ignored such warnings when they saw gold shops packed with consumers buying all kinds of gold products.


If the price (in Hong Kong) falls a bit more, I will go and buy a ring for my wife.


In Shanghai, some commercial banks have asked their wealth management product teams to call their clients to promote and sell gold-linked investment products this week, according to two individuals who received such promotional calls from their banks respectively.


“The salesperson just tells me on the phone that he thinks the gold price has been low enough so I should go to the bank and buy some gold products. He describes now as a very rare opportunity to buy gold,” said a retired local man in Shanghai who only wanted to be identified by his surname, Shao.


Historically speaking, Chinese people do love gold. It is traditional for the older generation in China to buy gold products for the younger generation as gifts for various occasions, for example, when their children get married and have babies.


From that historical point of view, it’s no surprise that Chinese consumers will buy gold when they see prices fall. Some analysts even joked that this time the war on gold prices may be a war between those big Western institutional investors like leading asset manager George Soros and Chinese retail investors, including many local housewives. It’s all about how much Chinese investors can take and how much gold will hit the market for sale.


Many old Chinese of my grandparents’ age may trust gold more than the Chinese currency yuan. During the time of the Cultural Revolution political movement on the mainland, many local families tried their best to hide gold at home or somewhere, which may even have saved their lives as gold was a popular gift of bribery in the country.


On Sina Weibo, the mainland’s most popular online social network, some netizens were discussing on Tuesday morning whether they should organize a group trip to Hong Kong to buy gold as the price of all kinds of gold products kept falling.


“If the price (in Hong Kong) falls a bit more, I will go and buy a ring for my wife,” commented one netizen. Mainlanders prefer buying gold products in Hong Kong mainly because they trust Hong Kong shops more than mainland stores in terms of the gold quality and purity.


That certainly brings a ray of light to some Hong Kong shops in terms of their sales prospects. On Tuesday, U.S. investment bank Jefferies gave Luk Fook, a major jewelry chain store operator in Hong Kong a buy rating on its Hong Kong-listed share price.


“Hong Kong and mainland consumers’ demand for gold increased when gold prices dropped sharply in mid-April, which positively improved SSSG (same store sales growth) and revenue,” said the bank in the report.

George Chen is the Post's financial services editor. Like the column? Visit facebook.com/mrshangkong

From: J
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: Comments - Week of April 15 - beijing stores out of gold

a moment of silent reflection, comrades

today we are told by the wastrels at bloomberg and the waste products at cnbc that gold tanked because china economy is growing at 7.99% as opposed to 8.01%

just now i saw on cctv news report re beijing gold stores had been mobbed starting this past saturday w/ folks buying gold, and

the stores are mobbed today in the am and are out of gold

one fair-sized store reported selling rmb 6odd million at opening time and ran out of inventory, w/ would-be customers leaving buy-orders to fill

the largest single customer took in ~rmb 1m of precious goodness

recommendation: getgold, humanely if possible, but getgold at all cost



To: Snowshoe who wrote (100015)4/16/2013 8:08:54 PM
From: Maurice Winn2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217927
 
It's more satisfaction at being shown to be right = my ideas matching reality. Our brains have evolved over a billion years to encode expectations of reality in our DNA and to enable experience and recording of current events to cope with recent phenomena of reality, all to help our genes propagate into the next iteration of the gene pool and reality, coming to a place near you first thing in the morning after mentally rehashing the events of the previous day overnight.

We all have to develop models for what we expect to happen so that we can do well given whatever happens. Some of us are lucky in what does come up to challenge us and some of us are simply unlucky. But all of us have a greater or lesser ability to model reality on a day to day basis to predict the inevitable future in our personal realm and not just predict it but to change it. And not just change it in our personal future but everyone's.

It's not much satisfaction to have goldenfreude but it does lead to some confidence that yet again my model of reality is not far off what is really going on and what can go on. Yet again it's more rewarding to follow my own determination of reality than that of the in-crowd.

Everyone in the world [who is able to do so] is now using my amazing mobile Cyberspace technology, first conceived [by me] way back in 1989 and then developed over the next 20 years and is now the zeitgeist. Almost nobody uses my Globalstar service [first conceived for trucks back in 1987 while in Antwerp working for BP Oil International] and now trying to make the second constellation marketing a success. It's a doubtful proposition at present, I admit, which is why I have only a part-load of GSAT in my little Tonka Truck. But give it another half dozen years and I hope they will see the light [and adopt my marketing plans].

In another 15 years, people will be using my next amazing invention [nearing reality]. Heck, if I hurry I might even get my graviton spin reversal personal transporter up and running though I admit that's still only in prototype form and in some respects is more science fiction than reality. But actual physicists thought CDMA would not work, with one [from Stanford] claiming it breached the laws of physics.

I create reality and other people use it. Gold bugs don't.

The basic problem with gold bugs is that they look back for security. My father used to say forward is the only way to go. That stemmed in part from the tragic events of the past [I guess] and there were no laurels on which to rest. Life was a matter of survival and progress away and into the future. His and my mother's ancestors were survivors and adventurers heading to the other ends of the world to find a new life which might be better or less bad. The future beckoned, not the past.

Mqurice