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To: average joe who wrote (35410)4/19/2013 7:59:51 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 69300
 
That's not ALL he said. He also told his followers: "Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit."



To: average joe who wrote (35410)4/19/2013 8:19:04 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 69300
 
Not only Jews but the original proto Christian Jew was of the lowest class of Jews , the untouchables & people on the bottom farmers fisherman & poor laborers that had two masters the Roman & the Pharisee priests
more here
theoccidentalobserver.net

“The first thing to be remembered if we do not wish to lose the scent here, is, that we are among Jews” (sec. 44). This much is obvious, but it bears repeating. Jesus was a Jew, as were his parents Joseph and Mary, and all 12 apostles. The three other main figures of the New Testament — Mark, Luke, and Paul — though not apostles, were also Jews. And the many unknown authors that contributed to the New Testament (NT) were almost certainly Jewish as well. This situation is not incidental, and not a question of individual character or action; “[it is] a matter of race.” And not just Jews, but lowly Jews — the ‘chandalas’, as Nietzsche calls them, the untouchables, the lumpenproletariat: “the people at the bottom, the outcasts and ‘sinners’, the chandalas within Judaism” (sec. 27). It was these men that gave birth to this great religion of redemption. ]10 Even granting that Nietzsche exaggerates here, it is clear that they were the low class, ‘blue collar’ people of the day — the farmers, fishermen, carpenters, and laborers. Christianity was born not simply of Jews, but of the lowest caste of Jews.

This situation is important to grasp because it demonstrates that the proto-Christian Jews had, in effect, two sets of masters: the Romans, and their own elite Jewish priests, the Pharisees. Hence they were doubly enslaved. In order to establish any sense of freedom and autonomy they would have to rebel against both parties — even as the Pharisees would be their allies against Rome. A difficult situation, to be sure.

His second fact — an unquestioned assumption, really — is that the entire concept of an actually-existing, transcendent, all-powerful God is utter nonsense. Stories about holy visions, miracles, redemption, and divine intervention are nothing more than “foeda superstitio” — vulgar superstition. This does not, however, mean that Nietzsche was opposed to ‘God’ in principle. He believed that every people and every culture need to create their own concept of religion, and of the divine. These things are a formalized recognition of respect and reverence toward that which embodies one’s highest values. Each culture and each era needs to create its god(s) anew, appropriate to their situation in the world. Western Europeans have utterly failed in this task




To: average joe who wrote (35410)4/19/2013 9:00:20 PM
From: Solon1 Recommendation  Respond to of 69300
 
That is all from the bible, of course. But I love the way cartoonists are able to make people see what is right before their very blind eyes!