To: combjelly who wrote (710985 ) 4/21/2013 12:38:39 PM From: i-node Respond to of 1574326 >> Show me any historical record he actually existed that wasn't written by a Christian. Classic straw man. I'm not very well informed on the matter, so I have to rely on what others who are have to say about it. Seems pretty clear cut to me -- the overwhelming verdict is practically unanimous, and apparently, amongst the well-informed, is totally unanimous. Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, [1] [2] [3] [4] and although there is little agreement on the historicity of gospel narratives and their theological assertions of his divinity, [5] [6] [7] [8] biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted. [9] [10] [11] Most scholars agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew who was born between 7 and 2 BC and died 30–36 AD. [12] [13] [14] Most scholars hold that Jesus lived in Galilee and Judea, did not preach or study elsewhere [15] [16] [17] and that he spoke Aramaic and may have also spoken Hebrew and possibly Greek. [18] [19] [20] Although scholars differ on the reconstruction of the specific episodes of the life of Jesus, the two events whose historicity is subject to "almost universal assent" are that he was baptized by John the Baptist and shortly afterwards was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate . [21] [22] [23] [24] Michael Grant (a classicist ) states that "In recent years, 'no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus' or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary. " in Jesus: An Historian's Review of the Gospels by Micjhael Grant 2004 ISBN 1898799881 page 200