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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (711043)4/21/2013 2:02:38 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576237
 
read up on what the fathers said about it



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (711043)4/21/2013 10:26:43 PM
From: Wayners  Respond to of 1576237
 
As I tried to explain, that's not how legal documents were written back then. Back then everybody knew that the explanatory clause wasn't the only reason to cite just the most important one and they expected that precedent to continue a long ways into the future.



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (711043)4/21/2013 10:31:57 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576237
 
Hi J_F_Shepard; Re what the founders meant by "the milita";

The meaning of "milita" is not up for debate:

-EXPCITE-    
TITLE 10 - ARMED FORCES

Subtitle A - General Military Law

PART I - ORGANIZATION AND GENERAL MILITARY POWERS

CHAPTER 13 - THE MILITIA

-HEAD-
Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes

-STATUTE-
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied
males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section
313 of title 32, under 45 years of age
who are, or who have made a
declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States
and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the
National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are -
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard
and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of
the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the
Naval Militia.

-SOURCE-
(Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 14; Pub. L. 85-861, Sec. 1(7),
Sept. 2, 1958, 72 Stat. 1439; Pub. L. 103-160, div. A, title V,
Sec. 524(a), Nov. 30, 1993, 107 Stat. 1656.)
uscode.house.gov

-- Carl



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (711043)4/21/2013 10:53:24 PM
From: d[-_-]b  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1576237
 
....leave off the militia clause and it wouldn't have required 225 years of argument in the courts...

The arguments as you claim are over - it's an individual right as affirmed by the court.