To: Greg or e who wrote (35678 ) 4/28/2013 6:40:09 AM From: 2MAR$ 1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300 The real gem of the article besides some quotes from Daniel Denett & Sagan is his link to this fellow Alex Rosenberg's essay from the National Humanities Center . There are some very tuff realities about the nature of the Universe that is very deterministic & why is it that a loving God created all the evil in the world again? And why when you examine the true historical thread of developing human social order it reads as one long continous unending arms race? Spread your wings, this is a very excellent read , there's a mystery here for sure and its called tuff "Reality". (really read the whole thing not cut n paste ok ?)The Disenchanted Naturalist’s Guide to Reality The Purpose Of The Universe And Other Easy Questions onthehuman.org This nihilistic blow is cushioned by the realization that Darwinian processes operating on our forbearers in the main selected for niceness! The core morality of cooperation, reciprocity and even altruism that was selected for in the environment of hunter-gatherers and early agrarians, continues to dominate our lives and social institutions. We may hope the environment of modern humans has not become different enough eventually to select against niceness. But we can’t invest our moral core with more meaning than this: it was a convenience, not for us as individuals, but for our genes. There is no meaning to be found in that conclusion. or this fact that we are deterministic beings, which is part of the mystery because are from "Nature" and there is much less free will than you "think".Then there is the fact, discovered by Libet, that actions are already determined by your brain before you consciously decide to do them! (As for determinism and the denial of real free will, that is a conclusion which, so to speak, goes without saying for scientism.) We have to add to these illusions of the will and sensory experience, robust experimental results which reveal that we actually navigate the world looking through the rear-view mirror! We don’t even see what is in front of our eyes, but continually make guesses about it based on what has worked out in our individual and evolutionary past. Discovering the illusion that we are looking through the windshield in stead of the rear view mirror, along with so much more that neuroscience is uncovering about the brain, reveals that the mind is no more a purpose-driven system than anything else in nature. This is just what scientism leads us to expect. There are no purposes in nature; physics has ruled them out, and Darwin has explained them away. meme