To: DallasKevin who wrote (42229 ) 4/28/2013 3:12:12 PM From: Jorj X Mckie 1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487 "They receive government benefits." Exactly what government benefits do you think they can receive? In order to receive any type of government benefits you must have a government ID (being here without any documentation means they can not get a government ID) and Social Security Number (Not an ITIN). Did you know they can not even receive aid from the Salvation Army because they require the same documents? Educating their children is paid for by local property taxes, which they also pay. Even if you rent, you are paying property taxes, as they are a part of your rent, so they are also paying for their children's education...as well as paying for the education of other people's children if they have none of their own. Exactly what benefits do you think they are getting? You have documented proof? I can supply it from my end (Government documentation). Food stamps, medical. You can look those up. There is plenty of proof out there for you."They send large portions of their earnings back home". If they actually did that, how could they afford to pay their bills? And even if they did do this, what is wrong with sending their savings outside the united States for investment? A great many US citizens do this in the form of "off-shore accounts" and foreign hedge funds. Should they be different just because they are not "white"? And along with the money they send, they also purchase billions of dollars of things here in the United States that are not available in their home countries and send that home as well, giving that boost to our job market and economy. they actually do it. If you knew any illegal aliens, you would know this. As far as the off-shore accounts and foreign hedge funds, these do not change marginal spending, whereas that of lower income people does. "Do not pay taxes". In fact, the majority DO pay taxes, by receiving what is known as an Individual Taxpayer identification Number from the IRS and using that to file their taxes with. As a matter of fact, they pay an estimated $11.5 billion or more per year. In addition, they also pay billions into Social Security using their ITIN, which is used to help shore up that system-and which they will never ever collect. So in fact, they DO pay taxes and contribute to a higher degree than you do, since they are paying into a system from which they will never draw from (Social Security). (Once again, I can supply government documentation to support this.) Many do, this is true. And they also cheat on their taxes by claiming non-resident "dependents". Yes, I can provide links."Narco-terrorists". What you are referring to here is actually a civil war, though no one wants to call it that. Over 60,000 innocent civilians have been killed so far (but Republicans and tea Party people don't care...after all they aren't Americans or even white, right?), more than the US number of dead from the whole Vietnam war. On one side, you have the drug cartels trying to wrest control of operating territory from the government and each other, and on the other side the Mexican government trying to defeat them and bring order. Caught in the middle are the working people. Many people flee to the United States because their lives are in serious danger there. I know this for a fact from personal experience. If you have a job there and make any kind of money, you will start receiving death threats and kidnapping threats. Either you agree to pay, or family members start dying. So, the people fleeing there and coming here are actually refugees even though they are not officially recognized as such, nor are they given Temporary Protected Status by the US government...instead we give billions to Jordan to take care of refugees over there. Bullshit on the republicans/tea party not caring about the dead in the narco-terrorist war. Much of northern mexico is a failed state. It is Mexico's job to fix it. Certainly some people coming across the border are refugees, but you must know that a great number come from El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala and other latin american countries. I'd stop the billions to Jordan as well, BTW."Terrorists coming here illegally". Show me proof. Show me one single terrorist or terrorist suspect that was caught or committed an act of terrorism that came here illegally. You will not find a single one. They all come here legally. After 9/11 focus was shifted from Muslims from the Middle East to Mexicans from south of the border in the interests of national Security-when there has not been one shred of evidence to support this view. Proof articles.latimes.com Do you want more proof?crimeblog.dallasnews.com It gets a little boring to constantly have these false charges of racism thrown out by people who don't know what they hell they are talking about. I helped our maid get her citizenship (she is El Salvadoran). Illegal aliens are an economic issue...regardless of nationality or the color of their skin. Securing our borders is a primary responsibility of our government. And it isn't racist simply because our most porous border is to the south and the people on the southern border generally have darker skin. It's really more a function of failed economic and political systems south of our border. Chechens are white, and I want the border closed to them too. I have argued here on SI many times that the Republicans need to make their case to the LEGAL hispanic population. Illegal immigrants harm the hispanic community far more than they harm the middle class. And as you pointed out, many in the latin community tend toward conservative philosophies. Even if they waste their votes on democrats. I'll skip further discussions that suggest that my views are racist. Quite simply, you don't know what in the hell you are talking about.