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Politics : Immigration and its Reform -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: DallasKevin who wrote (26)	5/2/2013 12:53:18 PM
From: Steve Lokness	2 Recommendations Respond to of 270

<<<< Well, we are all allowed our opinions >>>>> yes of course! But statements of "fact" are NOT opinion. If you said; melting of ice on Mars makes me think maybe GW is not man made, for instance, no one would ever contradict that because it is your opinion. But if you state that the melting of ice on Mars PROVES that GW is not man made - then you are making a leap that people don't respect - because you are pulling facts out of your ass that just are not true. Get the difference? As to the facts as you laid them out on the history of immigration; I patiently provided links to show you where you were wrong. Wrong not by my judgement - but wrong because the facts as you have provided them were clearly wrong. How about you provide some links if you're so darn sure of your facts? I certainly did! They're your facts - back them up man!!!!!Here's the falsehoods you need to correct; 1) First quota were in 1924. 2) Chinese were NOT excluded after the 1882 law. (you gave reference to a law passed in 1879 - well duh! Which come first? They might not have been excluded in 1879 - they certainly were in 1882 and 1882 is way before 1924) 3) The Immigration laws were State laws. 4) People didn't have to meet standards such as being healthy, having enough money to support themselves, being of moral character, etc., before 1924.

To: DallasKevin who wrote (26)	5/2/2013 1:15:55 PM
From: Steve Lokness	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 270

You're wrong even your own reference. From the Office of Historian!!! In 1880, the Hayes Administration appointed U.S. diplomat James B. Angell to negotiate a new treaty with China. The resulting Angell Treaty permitted the United States to restrict, but not completely prohibit, Chinese immigration. In 1882, Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act, which, per the terms of the Angell Treaty, suspended the immigration of Chinese laborers (skilled or unskilled) for a period of 10 years. The Act also required every Chinese person traveling in or out of the country to carry a certificate identifying his or her status as a laborer, scholar, diplomat, or merchant. The 1882 Act was the first in American history to place broad restrictions on immigration. For American presidents and Congressmen addressing the question of Chinese exclusion, the challenge was to balance domestic attitudes and politics, which dictated an anti-Chinese policy, while maintaining good diplomatic relations with China, where exclusion would be seen as an affront and a violation of treaty promises. The domestic factors ultimately trumped international concerns. In 1888, Congress took exclusion even further and passed the Scott Act, which made reentry to the United States after a visit to China impossible, even for long-term legal residents. The Chinese Government considered this act a direct insult, but was unable to prevent its passage. In 1892, Congress voted to renew exclusion for ten years in the Geary Act, and in 1902, the prohibition was expanded to cover Hawaii and the Philippines, all over strong objections from the Chinese Government and people. Congress later extended the Exclusion Act indefinitely. history.state.gov

To: DallasKevin who wrote (26)	5/3/2013 10:19:34 AM
From: locogringo	5 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 270

From another thread which is hopefully vermin free now............ " I mean, you aren't one of those people who think I should be ashamed of my military service, are you?" I do not have an opinion on the Girl Scouts of America at this moment, nor your service.. Do you realize that you answered my complaint of using the word "I" seven times with a reply that used it 8 times? You are in love with yourself.................and you probably deserve it. ADIOS....................and please feel free to knock me and call me racist several times since I will tell you in advance that I won't be posting here again or rebut you childish fantasies.