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To: koan who wrote (43439)	5/11/2013 10:58:09 PM
From: Bearcatbob	4 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

What blow off? The article states that the concentration in Hawaii was measured at 400 ppm. Of course the ice pack info you post is not in that article - very clever way of falsely spinning info. Charles - it is fabrications like that that are characteristic of all you CO2 alarmists. It is very very very hard to take people seriously who are so factually challenged. In my life - once a person told me a fib - I never believed them again. You passed that threshold years ago. If it is going to happen - it is going to happen. If nothing else - that is the conclusion of the article. Why are you guys loony? Well - US CO2 emissions are down - why - natural gas from fracking. What do you loons want to stop - fracking. Yup Charles loony - absolutely loony. I might add - truthfully challenged. Loony and dishonest - what a combination. Bob PS: All of the fear mongering was the opinion of one person. Yes Charles - that article means nothing to me. PSS: Further to the subject of loony - nuclear power. The current idiot leading our nation makes nice talk about nuclear power. However, one of his first actions was to shut down Yuca Mountain. Ergo we have little nuclear waste dumps all over the country with absolutely no process in place to solve the problem. But ah - Harry Reid was paid off. Pay offs are what the fool is good at. All the while he speaks such beautiful words that so many gullible idiots believe. Actions speak - not fairy tale speeches. Our nation will pay a horrible price for the Obama experiment.

To: koan who wrote (43439)	5/12/2013 10:47:05 AM
From: Paul Smith	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 85487

'Scientific' liberals should accept results of science Those who deny that germs cause disease shouldn't call their opponents anti-science. But that's exactly what HBO comedian and germ-theory-denier Bill Maher routinely calls Republicans to hearty applause. The core trait of a scientific mind is that when its commitments clash with evidence, evidence rules. On that count, what grade do liberals deserve? Fail, given their reaction to the latest evidence on universal health care, global warming and universal preschool. The policy world was rocked recently by a New England Journal of Medicine study showing that Medicaid doesn't improve the health care outcomes of uninsured individuals. The study compared the health status of adults who were randomly enrolled in Oregon's Medicaid program with those who weren't. It found that two years after patients received Medicaid, "no significant improvements in measured physical health outcomes" such as hypertension, cholesterol and diabetes resulted. Coverage did, however, lower depression rates and reduced financial strain. How should a scientifically-inclined liberal have reacted? By acknowledging that if the findings hold in subsequent years, Obamacare's plan to use Medicaid to achieve its universal coverage goal -- at half-a-trillion-dollar price tag over a decade -- would need to be reconsidered. Some liberals such as Ray Fisman of Slate did just that -- but they were the exception. Most liberals either dissed the study's methodology after praising it previously (Kevin Drum, Mother Jones) or ignored its core findings and reported the good news (Jonathan Cohn, The New Republic) or attacked Obamacare's opponents as heartless fools (Paul Krugman of The New York Times). For two decades, progressives have castigated those questioning global warming as "deniers." But the Economist, once firmly in the alarmist camp, recently acknowledged that global temperatures have remained stagnant for 15 years even as greenhouse-gas emissions have soared. This may be because existing models have overestimated the planet's sensitivity. Or because the heat generated is sinking to the ocean bottom. Or because of something else completely. How should a scientifically inclined liberal react to this trend? By inhaling deeply and backing off on economy-busting mitigation measures till science offers clearer answers. And how have liberals reacted? By sticking their fingers in their ears and chanting la-la-la. The New York Times editorialized this week that the European Union should redouble its efforts to salvage its floundering carbon trading system. This scheme forces companies that exceed their greenhouse gas emission quota to either reduce production or spend gobs to buy spare quotas from others. The Washington Post's Brad Plumer penned an essay noting that atmospheric carbon emissions are now approaching levels only seen in the Pliocene Era -- without bothering to note that they aren't producing the same warming this time. Most priceless, however, was Chris Mooney, author of The Republican War on Science. Yesterday, he spilled serious ink in Mother Jones resuscitating the near-dead "hockey stick" graph -- the core evidence of global warmists -- which allegedly showed a sudden warming spike in the last century after a millennium of steady temperatures. Liberals don't just want universal health insurance -- they also want universal preschool. But the evidence for government-funded preschool is even more dubious than for government-funded health care. Numerous studies on Head Start, the federal pre-K program for poor kids, show that its reading and math gains virtually evaporate by fourth grade. And the latest evidence from Oklahoma and Georgia, two states that implemented universal pre-K in the 1990s, only confirms this. Oklahoma's high-school graduation rates have dropped since it embraced UPK and Georgia's remain stagnant. The average reading score of Oklahoma's fourth graders on the NAEP -- the national report card -- dropped four points between 1998 and 2011. Georgia just reached the national average. The NAEP reading gap between black and white children in Oklahoma was 22 points in 1992. In 2011? The same. Georgia had a 28-point spread in 1992. In 2011? Twenty-three points. How should President Barack Obama, who had promised evidence-based policy, have responded? By renouncing his commitment to UPK. What did he do? Jetted to Georgia and declared its program a national model. It's not that conservatives don't have ideological fixations that are impervious to science. However, they don't pretend to don the mantle of science. Liberals do. washingtonexaminer.com

To: koan who wrote (43439)	5/12/2013 10:48:53 AM
From: longnshort	2 Recommendations Respond to of 85487

guess who said this THE capital is in the throes of déjà vu and preview as it plunges back into Clinton Rules, defined by a presidential aide on the hit ABC show “Scandal” as damage control that goes like this: “It’s not true, it’s not true, it’s not true, it’s old news.” The conservatives appearing on Benghazi-obsessed Fox News are a damage patrol with an approach that goes like this: “Lies, paranoia, subpoena, impeach, Watergate, Iran-contra.” (Though now that the I.R.S. has confessed to targeting Tea Party groups, maybe some of the paranoia is justified.) Welcome to a glorious spring weekend of accusation and obfuscation as Hillaryland goes up against Foxworld. The toxic theatrics, including Karl Rove’s first attack ad against Hillary, cloud a simple truth: The administration’s behavior before and during the attack in Benghazi, in which four Americans died, was unworthy of the greatest power on earth. After his Libyan intervention, President Obama knew he was sending diplomats and their protectors into a country that was no longer a country, a land rife with fighters affiliated with Al Qaeda.

To: koan who wrote (43439)	5/12/2013 11:46:13 AM
From: Brumar89	5 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 85487

Time magazine gets one right: November 24, 2008. Curiously, Time meant their headline to be a compliment. You can’t say you weren’t warned: ? “FDR’s policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate.” — Press release, UCLA Newsroom, August 10, 2004. Ed Driscoll

To: koan who wrote (43439)

5/12/2013 12:08:12 PM

From: Brumar89

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Climate refugees in Manitoba; Coldest spring in US history so far

Overheated Atmosphere Creates Climate Refugees In Manitoba
Posted on May 12, 2013by stevengoddard

A local state of emergency has been declared in a western Manitoba municipality after homes in Ochre Beach were destroyed and seriously damaged by a wave of lake ice.

Area officials told CBC News the wind pushed built-up ice off Dauphin Lake on Friday evening and caused it to pile up in the community, located on the lake’s southern shore.

The piles of ice, which were more than nine metres tall in some cases, destroyed at least six homes and cottages, according to the Rural Municipality of Ochre River.

Another 14 homes suffered extensive damage, with some structures knocked off their foundations.

Clayton Watts, Ochre River’s deputy reeve, said it’s a miracle no one was hurt.

He told CBC News one minute people were watching hockey in their living rooms, the next they heard something that sounded like a freight train near their homes.

Wall of ice destroys Manitoba homes, cottages – Manitoba – CBC News

h/t to Tom Nelson
stevengoddard.wordpress.com

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Midway through May, so far this has been the coldest spring in US history.

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Hmm: As CO2 hits its highest level since 1958, Nenana Ice Classic threatens one of its latest breakup dates since 1907

Breakup watch: Nenana Ice Classic clock gets hooked up this weekend - Fairbanks Daily News-Miner

This year's breakup is already one of the latest on record in the 97-year-old Ice Classic, which was started as a betting game between railroad engineers in 1917. The ice has gone out on May 11 or later only 16 times in 97 years.
If the ice holds through the weekend, this year's breakup will rank among the top 10 latest on record.
The latest breakup in Ice Classic history is May 20, 1964, one of the few winters that lasted longer than the current one. That year Fairbanks didn't have its first 50-degree day until May 23.
"I don't know if it's going to make it another 10 days or not," Forness said on Friday. "It might hang in there.
"It would be cool it if it did," she said.

tomnelson.blogspot.com

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And it's not just a cold spring in north America, but in Europe ( dotnet.sys-con.com

) and Japan ( japantoday.com

) as well.