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To: O'Hara who wrote (9711)	12/6/1997 8:39:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 39621

This is actually to Shalom, too, Shalom I just wanted to add this scripture to yours because to me it is the key scripture of the whole debate we are now in over the human minds in particular who made sure Jesus was not able to continue his life on earth. And dear Lee, I hope discussing the reality of the scriptures does not make you feel ganged up upon. But the most meaningful scripture of all to me is in John Chapter 11. John is where I have spent a lot of my Bible life, and have more interest in what I find there. Now, of every word in the Bible, I certainly trust John the most to have not misled us in an iota. John even willingly accompanied Jesus into the first rooms of his arrest, except the Romans threw him out. Peter was still outside in plain sight, and so to me Peter is no coward indeed. I believe I would have by that time been far in the hills hiding, as well may many of us. I believe everybody knew the favorite punishment of Romans and Jews alike was whipping until near dead and then being nailed up to die in about three days. So, I dare not call Peter a coward. He was there. But anyway, John trotted in along side Jesus and I believe would happily have died with him if possible. That I am sure of. John himself found out somehow, and records (and remember that Jesus had followers everywhere ) so I doubt it was hard to get inside information. John records that after Lazarus came out of the little cave as alive once again and the story was spreading like wildfire that: John 11:46 Then many of the JEWS which came to Mary and had seen the things which Jesus did BELIEVED ON HIM. BUT some of them went their ways to the Pharisees and told them what things Jesus had done. Then gathered the chief priests an d Pharisees a council, and said: "What do we? For this man doeth many miracles. If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him, and the Romans shall come and take away both our place (as leaders) and our nation. And one of them named Caiaphas, being THE HIGH PRIEST THAT SAME YEAR, said unto them, "Ye know nothing at all, Nor consider that it is expedient for us that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not." And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the Children of God that were scattered abroad. Then from that day forth they took counsel together FOR TO PUT HIM TO DEATH. For any visitors now debating from a worldly standpoint: Guys, these are from authenicated ancient manuscripts which no one has ever denied were real, written by a Jewish guy that was there. That's just history. You don't have to be a Christian to sense that that is in fact exactly what did happen. Even Josephus records the popularity of Jesus. For all I know he wrote much more about Jesus and the minnions of darkness in human form edited that out from the start lest it give the Jews a reason to doubt their decision to turn against Jeshua in the first place. The people that come here to speak of Jesus, and hopefully the non-believers even if they are here to discuss their opposition to some of reality of Jesus, need to realize once and for all we are NOT discussing an English Jesus whose disciples were all Anglo Saxon bakers and minstrels. We're talking about a Jewish Jesus and Jewish history about a Jewish Jesus and if you don't like the reality of a Jewish Jesus and Jewish history about him don't get mad at us. Just prove it wrong if you can. That's what we're here for. To talk about Jewish history and Jesus, since that is basically the life interest of any follower of Jesus Christ. I'm glad some people who truly are Jewish are here to discuss the reality of it. Praise God, a miracle happened. I just don't want anyone to be offended because we, the followers of Jesus Christ, stick solely to the history of Jesus Christ as handed to us by the JEWISH followers of Jesus Christ who died horrible deaths following Him til the end. I speak here to Al-len, who pinches Emile's nose or something, who probably thinks this is a "think exactly as we do and if we dont like it we'll flame you out of here like nasty little brats." I hope he stays around and shares his mind. Also, Stock Mogol, who needs God badly indeed, did not share his dark history of Luther, the mad Gestapo monk. I wish he would.