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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (40138)5/26/2013 4:14:55 PM
From: Sdgla  Respond to of 86356
 
The % mantra is meant to end the pursuit of scientific evidence. The felonious fraudsters prefer insult and denigration over the pursuit of data. Easiest way to end the discussion in order to pursue the continued fleecing of public coffers.... What's left in them... which isn't much more than projected future funds now.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (40138)5/26/2013 6:24:33 PM
From: Thomas A Watson1 Recommendation  Respond to of 86356
 
Maurice when you said of Eric's post.

"Your 97% is not a correct representation of what people think. That figure itself is bung science. "

well you missed the mark a little. It is not bung science, it is total fabrication within any framework of scientific method. That is to say it represents the Eric Scientific Method.
FYI info found at wattsupwiththat.com wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/22/the-collapsing-consensus/

An Analysis of the the 97% consensus reveals.
The Collapsing ‘Consensus’
Posted on May 22, 2013 by Guest Blogger

Guest essay by Christopher Monckton of Brenchley Environmental Research Letters ought to have known better than to publish the latest anti-scientific propaganda paper by John Cook of the dubiously-named Skeptical Science website. Here are just a few of the solecisms that should have led any competent editor or reviewer to reject the paper:

  • It did not discuss, still less refute, the principle that the scientific method is not in any way informed by argument from consensus, which thinkers from Aristotle via Alhazen to Huxley and Popper have rejected as logically fallacious.
  • Its definition of the “consensus” it claimed to have found was imprecise: that “human activity is very likely causing most of the current anthropogenic global warming”.
  • It did not put a quantitative value on the term “very likely”, and it did not define what it meant by “current” warming. There has been none for at least 18 years.
  • It cited as authoritative the unscientifically-sampled surveys of “consensus” by Doran & Zimmerman (2009) and Anderegg et al. (2010).
  • It inaccurately represented the views of scientists whose abstracts it analysed.
    It disregarded two-thirds of the 12,000 abstracts it examined, on the unscientific ground that those abstracts had expressed no opinion on Man’s climatic influence.
    It declared that the one-third of all papers alleged to have endorsed the “consensus” really amounted to 97% of the sample, not 33%.
  • It suggested that the “consensus” that most recent warming is manmade is equivalent to the distinct and far less widely-supported notion that urgent action to prevent future warming is essential to avert catastrophe. Obama fell for this, twittering that 97% found global warming not only real and manmade but also dangerous.
Yet the most remarkable conclusion to be drawn from Cook’s strange paper is that the “consensus” – far from growing – is actually collapsing.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (40138)5/26/2013 7:58:45 PM
From: Eric  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86356
 
Eric, 100% of people thought the stars rotated around the Earth back in the day. Earth was the centre of the universe and people were the centre of creation.

Well Galileo was not well received by the catholic church!

CO2 is another kettle of fish altogether. CO2 is not harmful.

I suggest you tell that to all of the marine biologists and oceanographers out there who disagree strongly with your opinion!

Earth was not in stable heat equilibrium. It was and is unstable.

I never said it was stable. The environment on the planet is constantly changing and man is not helping the situation.