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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (40142)	5/26/2013 6:35:21 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

Rat brain, how can any one claim that the media is silent on Climate Changer. If you want more media stories on global warming you should have your buddy Land Shark put the link to climatedebatedaily.com climatedebaitdaily.com back in the Header Message of The Environmentalist Thread. This is the top story on Drudge. LOL...... Whiteface Mountain ?@SkiWhiteface 3h We're now up to 34" of #Snow on top of #Whiteface what a #MemorialDay #weekend pic.twitter.com/H7Th3iMQ1b

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (40142)	5/26/2013 6:40:13 PM
From: Maurice Winn	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

Wrong again Wharfie, procrastination in this case [CO2 emissions] is a good thing. <Cullen summed up this problem well during the panel discussion, saying that addressing climate change is “the biggest procrastination problem in the sense that the longer you wait to fix it the tougher it gets to fix, so the sooner we start the better off we are.” > Give it another 10 years or so and you'll be dead so your CO2 emissions will cease. Wait another 20 years and I could be in trouble. Wait another 24 years to 2037 when Peak People will occur and they'll be dying in droves. The one child policy in China will result in China joining Japan and many countries with declining populations. Malthusian carnage will reduce some overpopulated places such as Egypt where ideological conflict results in starvation and conflict will likely make things worse. Syria is probably not booming in population at present. Sars, H5N1 or the like will probably decimate the population too [decimate meaning one in ten dies]. Or it could be a 30% cut like plague did. With 70% mortality, H5N1 had potential for serious population reduction if it had combined with a highly transmissible flu. By then, technology will have made more improvements and people will be able to run their lives without paying so much money to oil, coal and gas producers. Dinky little cars can go a long way on small amounts of energy if well designed. The "real world" is not a panel of climatologists [who are not really scientists - they are more like philatelists and numismatists]. The real world is actual temperatures and objective facts measurable by anyone who likes to do so. Reality has confirmed that runaway warming did not happen. Snow in May is not runaway warming. A few tornadoes is not proof of Global Warming. Tornadoes have been going where Oklahoma is for centuries and no doubt longer than that. Same for hurricanes which have NOT been as common as in the past. We are still waiting for a replay of the Dust Bowl days. The real world has not obliged for the Global Alarmists who have had to change their predictions to "Anything that happens is proof of Global Warming". Having set predictions was a mistake because they did not come true so ignorant people were prone to think that if what was predicted didn't happen, then the theory was obviously bung. Now that everything is Global Warming, including reglaciation, no hurricanes, lots of hurricanes, no snow, lots of snow, floods, droughts, everything, it's no longer a falsifiable theory so it cannot be shown to be wrong. But science needs the word falsifiable in theories for it to be science rather than black magic, witchcraft and mere dogma. "The Science" looks much more like old time superstitious religion than actual objective science. In "The Science" priests are ordained [Gore, Suzuki, Mann, Jones], tithes are collected, heretics are burned at the stake ... same old thing ... Mqurice