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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (40225)	5/28/2013 10:38:04 AM
From: Maurice Winn	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 86356

Wharfie, the Cosmos is not a bouncy castle. It kills. <"Do you know how much sea level rise a tsunami can cause in 1 second? " Do you know how much it drop afterwards? Do you know how much the level drops on the backside? > AFTER the tsunami water has washed back into the sea, it's a bit late. Everyone will be dead and their property destroyed. It's not that everyone simply shuts their eyes as the tsunami approaches, counts to 10 and everything is back to normal. On the other hand, a sea level rise of 16cm in my Manukau Harbour over 100 years would not even go over my gumboots if had had them on when wading paddling in the water sixty years ago at high tide and had stayed there for 60 years. A continued sea level rise of another 16 cm over the next hundred years won't worry me either. Nor will my descendants think it a problem. Even if it goes to 40 cm it won't make a difference. If it goes to a couple of metres, a few houses around the shore will need to be abandoned. But the people living in them now will have long since gained the value of pleasant beach front living other than passing tsunamis which will probably have removed them. You seem to not understand that 0.7 degrees temperature increase is likely not due to CO2 increase. Especially since the CO2 heating theory has failed to match reality. So the sea level rise, which was happening long before burning carbon became extremely popular among billions of people, is obviously due to other variables, such as the end of the last glaciation and the Little Ice Age. Here is a hint. When ice on land melts, it runs down to the sea. There, it increases the depth of the ocean. Sea level rises. During the Little Ice Age, a lot of ice was parked at the top of mountains, and bottom of them too. The Fox and Franz Josef glaciers for example reached way down at sea level. Now the toe of them is way up the mountains. There is a lot less ice in general on the Southern Alps. It's not surprising sea level rose a little bit. Sea level has risen a LOT since the last glaciation. Sea level goes up and down. It is wise to not put too much value right at sea level. Mostly because of the rapid changes in sea level as slpashes from bolides in the Pacific Ocean are very dangerous and arrive with little or no warning. Earthquakes are problematic too [see Japan a couple of years ago and Indonesia a few years before that]. Does 16 cm of sea level rise over 100 years really get you excited? Mqurice