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To: Alighieri who wrote (718704)5/31/2013 12:39:13 PM
From: one_less1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1580253
 
Apparently you felt compelled to crop this out of the context, not surprisingly. Back in it goes. tsk

The United States of America was a unique effort, placing the natural rights of human beings at the center and beyond reach of the collective authority. The moment we started defining rights as things which can be given by the power of the state, we began coercing and imposing actions on members of society.

Then

We began to compel individuals to act against their own judgement, to force them to turn over wealth and property for things they do not support, to deprive them of property, possessions, and personal values; which was the moment the American system began to decay, along this path America eventually will encounter the failure experienced by its predecessors. Human beings are now simply the means by which government can accomplish its ends.


It is unsustainable and everyone knows it.



To: Alighieri who wrote (718704)5/31/2013 12:46:53 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1580253
 
>> THAT is what breaks down political systems...democratic or otherwise.

You will agree, though, that you are on the far left end of the political spectrum, and believe in wealth redistribution and more of a socialist mentality, right?

All of the differences you and I have seem to me to stem from that one thing -- that we believe you should be able to keep what you earn while you believe the state has the right to take that money and redistribute it to those who are less fortunate. Is that not the essence of the opposing views? Is there any other substantive issue?

That is to ask, don't most of these disagreements between right and left essentially relate to how much of the profit from one's own labor and investment he should be allowed to keep for himself?



To: Alighieri who wrote (718704)5/31/2013 3:31:12 PM
From: Tenchusatsu1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1580253
 
Al,
at a time when taxation has never been lower
LOL, perhaps you missed the part where wealthy Californians are being taxed at a rate above 50%.

That includes both Phil Mickelson and Bill Maher who both complained about it.

Tenchusatsu