To: Marshall Teitelbaum who wrote (1202 ) 12/6/1997 7:03:00 AM From: Harry D. Kramer Respond to of 2205
Marshall and all, either David knows something we don't know (e.g. the bad quality of healing argument), or he is just playing the short game with us. Buy on rumors sell on fact? Life is not that easy. You need to have an idea what this stock can be worth if all things go as planned, or if all things go wrong. With the stock now at $15 and the probability of approval for dermagraft now close to 100%, I think the risk being short right now is much higher than the risk being long. However, if we go significantly above $20 before the panel, I think this relationship may change. So it's of course all a matter of where we stand at the end of January, to make such a bold prediction. By the way, I don't think that the market will make the same mistake again, which means, I would really be surprised to see ATIS above 20 in the next 7 weeks. But I agree with you, Marshall, the shorts will be a very important factor in this issue. There is a lot of shares to cover and this could lead to a short term squeeze. David, why don't you give us some insight in your strategy regarding ATIS!?! Maybe you can come up with some new aspects that haven't been discussed here in adequate length. What are the reasons behind your bearish view on ATIS? Is it just a valuation call, or is it something else? As I have said before, I think the risk-adjusted fair value of ATIS right now is somewhere around $18-$26 per share. This fair value level can grow at an annual normalized rate of 20%-30% for the next five years, if things work out the way the company and most of us assume. That's of course a big if, but it's getting smaller and smaller every day. Just my opinion. Would like to hear plausible (and verifiable) arguments that prove me wrong. Questions to all on this thread: 1.) What kind of market share is realistic for dermagraft (five years after market launch and in percent of total patient population)? 2.) Pricing of dermagraft? 3.) Assuming clinical development of the cartilage product is successful, when can we expect to see this product on the market? Etc., etc. My assumptions: 1.) 16%-22% (of 400.000 in the U.S.) 2.) $3200 per average patient (=$380-$420 per sq.ft.) 3.) 2000 (worst-case 2001) Does anyone have completely different expectations? And why? Marshall, to the credibility issue. Unfortunately it's not just credibility, but hard money that has been lost in the last year. Not only did the additional trial cost real money, but we also lost approximately one year of product sales. And this adds up to a lot of millions. But at least the additional study will help with the marketing of the product. I agree in one point with David. I have enough of reading the sentence: "With this technology we can do everything, we can even grow a whole arm in the lab, etc, etc., etc." I have been reading these promo-statements now for years, but the clinical pipeline hasn't changed in all these years. So let's just do it! Give us your new hand, Ms Naughton. :-) Have a nice weekend, Harry