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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (719599)6/5/2013 5:02:33 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1580554
 
All your RINOs should be killed, and their horns sold to the Chinese for traditional boner pills.

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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (719599)6/6/2013 2:50:19 AM
From: FJB  Respond to of 1580554
 
Insiders are saying you are correct. This public crap is a scam.

Is a Toomey-Manchin Compromise In the Works On Immigration?
by John Hinderaker
(John Hinderaker) A friend who is deeply connected in Washington and involved in the immigration battle writes:

Regarding reports that Rubio is working with Sen. Cornyn on this border security amendment, a usually good source tells me:

It’s a trap. They are going to Toomey-Manchin this thing: Announce a big compromise right before the vote, give no one any time to read it, and scare GOP moderates into voting for it.

Same with the rumor out there that Rubio may leave the Gang of Eight. In other words, Rubio protests, but then makes a big deal about how the amendment fixes the border security weakness in the bill so he can support it now. Big media blitz right before vote claiming the bill is fixed. Between us, I could totally see that happening. What do you think?

Toomey-Manchin, of course, was the 11th-hour compromise on gun control that failed narrowly in the Senate. What do I think? Several things:

1) The scenario is highly plausible. I don’t think Rubio would do it cynically, but he has a lot invested in immigration “reform” and no doubt would like to be able to pronounce that some new package of security provisions is adequate.

2) This possibility emphasizes, once again, that the whole “border security” issue is nothing but a trap for conservatives.
The idea that we should trade the other provisions in the Gang’s bill for border security–even airtight, perfect border security, starting tomorrow–is a delusion. The problem with the Gang’s proposal is that it a) immediately legalizes 11 million illegal immigrants, and then b) authorizes a vast increase in legalimmigration over the coming years, particularly immigration of low-skilled workers. There are two estimates of how much legal immigration will increase in the next ten years under the Gang’s bill, over and above currently authorized levels. The lower estimate is 30 million, which represents more than one-quarter of the population of Mexico. The higher estimate is 57 million. The authors of the bill refuse to say how manylegal immigrants it authorizes in the years to come.

It is blindingly obvious that border security is only relevant to keeping out new illegals (the ones already here will be amnestied). But if the Gang’s bill goes through, the number of new illegals could be zero, and the bill is still a disaster for America. Mass importation of low-skilled immigrants is not bad because they are illegal, it is bad because we already do not have enough jobs for the many millions of low-skilled American citizens in whose interest Congress should be acting. Low-skilled Americans are struggling; everyone knows that. Unemployment and poverty are sky-high. If we can’t find enough jobs for the low-skilled workers we already have, how in the world can we find enough jobs for those workers, plus tens of millions more? Unemployment will rise, wages will be driven down even further, and the country’s welfare system will be strained to the breaking point. This is the consequence of legal immigration under the Gang’s bill, not illegal immigration. So border security is irrelevant.

The Gang’s 1,000-page bill is so impenetrable that analysts are still trying to figure out how many millions of new immigrants it authorizes. Today the Center for Immigration Studies published a report that shows the Gang’s bill will double the annual flow of “guest workers” into the United States:

n the first year, the bill (S.744) would admit nearly 1.6 million more temporary workers than currently allowed. After that initial spike, the bill would increase annual temporary worker admissions by more than 600,000 each year over the current level – an increase four times larger than the one called for in the 2007 Bush-Kennedy proposal (about 125,000).

As a result, this bill would roughly double the number of temporary workers admitted each year (nearly 700,000 in 2012). These workers are classified as “non-immigrants” and would be in addition to S.744's large proposed increase in annual permanent legal immigrants competing for jobs (more than 30 million in the next decade).

Are we really crazy enough to even consider enacting legislation, when its authors refuse to tell us, to within the nearest ten million, how many low-skilled workers will be imported to compete with American citizens who are already barely hanging on? I can understand why you might favor the Gang’s “reform” if you own a slaughterhouse: wouldn’t it be great to have five or six unemployed men competing for every job? I can understand why a Democratic politician might favor the bill: bad for America, but who cares? It will lead to many millions of new Democratic voters. But why on Earth would anyone who has the best interests of American workers at heart even consider supporting the Gang’s proposal, which does nothing to reform the real problems with our immigration laws, like chain migration, and would devastate America’s working class?

Some people are starting to catch on. Thus, a group of African-American leaders has issued an open letter, calling on Senators to:

…consider the disastrous effects that Senate Bill 744 would have on low skill workers of all races, while paying particular attention to the potential harm to African Americans. Credible research indicates that black workers will suffer the greatest harm if this legislation were to be passed.

So cracks are beginning to appear in the Democrats’ support for a massive new wave of legal immigration. The dumbest thing Republicans could possibly do at this point would be to take Democrats off the hook by signing on to a phony “compromise” that improves border security while doing nothing about the tens of millions of new immigrants and “guest workers” who will flow right past that border fence because they are now legal residents.
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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (719599)6/10/2013 8:29:03 AM
From: FJB  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1580554
 
On immigration, an opposition strategy emerges: Hold Gang to its own words

washingtonexaminer.com

June 10, 2013 | 1:26 am | Modified: June 10, 2013 at 1:45 am

Opponents of the Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform bill have focused on a multitude of weaknesses in the legislation. Its border security triggers are ineffective, they say. Same for its internal enforcement provisions. It would allegedly lower wages for low-skill American workers. It would reward immigrants for the act of coming to the United States illegally. And so on.

But with the Senate scheduled to take up debate on the Gang bill Tuesday, a new opposition strategy is emerging: to expose the weaknesses of the bill by holding Gang members to account for their own words. In countless public statements, Gang members have touted the “tough” measures in the bill. But it’s common knowledge among opponents that several of the purportedly tough provisions are weakened by waivers and exceptions. What if opponents came up with amendments that hewed closely to the Gang members’ statements of purpose — but took out the waivers and exceptions and replaced them with tight requirements? What would happen then?

For example, Sen. Marco Rubio, the leading Republican on the Gang of Eight, has often said the bill requires the Department of Homeland Security to develop “100 percent awareness” of the U.S.-Mexico border — that is, to keep all of the border under surveillance at all times — and apprehend 90 percent of those who attempt to cross the border illegally. A “Myth vs. Fact” press release from Rubio’s office shortly after the Gang of Eight bill was first introduced called for “100 percent awareness and 90 percent success in apprehending those trying to cross the border.” Unless those goals are met, Rubio and other supporters have said, formerly illegal immigrants will not be permitted to move from registered provisional immigrant status to legal permanent resident status and then, later, to U.S. citizenship.

But the bill as written includes no such requirement; immigrants can be awarded legal permanent resident status even if the security goals have not been met. So now, Sen. John Cornyn, the second-ranking Republican in the Senate, is preparing to introduce an amendment that not only re-affirms the 100 percent-90 percent structure — it requires that those standards must be met before any registered provisional immigrants would be allowed to apply for legal permanent resident status. It’s just like the Gang bill, except that it would actually demand that the border be secure before legal permanent resident status is granted. Who would not agree?

Well, a number of Democrats, and some Republicans, too. “The problem you’ll have if you try to enhance border security in an unachievable way and tie it to the path to citizenship, I think the deal falls apart,” Republican Gang member Sen. Lindsey Graham told the Washington Post recently. Some Democrats have already suggested the Cornyn amendment would be a complete deal breaker.

So the effect of the Cornyn amendment would be to suggest that some of the tough talk that has gone into the promotion of the Gang bill is just talk. “We are exposing vulnerabilities,” says one GOP aide. “You say 100 percent and 90 percent are good? Let’s put it to the test and actually mandate it. If you then say that’s unattainable, that raises a lot of questions about your sincerity or the ability of your legislation to do what it says it does.”

There are a number of possibilities for Cornyn-style amendments dealing with other provisions of the bill. For example, both Democrats and Republicans have claimed that the bill requires formerly-illegal immigrants to learn English as a condition of acquiring legal permanent resident status. “They will have to, for the first time in U.S. history, learn English to be able to even become a permanent resident,” said Democratic Sen. Robert Menendez on the day the Gang first introduced its work last January. “Before any of these 11 million could earn a green card, they would be required to…learn English,” Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte, the first GOP non-Gang member to endorse the bill, wrote on Sunday.

But the bill does not require any immigrant to demonstrate any level of proficiency in English as a condition of earning a green card. While the bill says immigrants must meet a standard laid out in the Immigration and Nationality Act that they “demonstrate an understanding of the English language,” it then adds that those immigrants who don’t understand English should be “satisfactorily pursuing a course of study…to achieve an understanding of English.” There’s no requirement that they actually achieve that understanding as a condition of earning legal permanent resident status.

So what if a Republican filed an amendment to require that immigrants demonstrate an understanding of English before being eligible for green cards? No waivers, no conditions — just demonstrate an understanding of English. It’s no more than Gang members have said — but if it were actually required it might well upset the careful balance of the agreement.

And what about the Border Commission? When the bill was first introduced, Rubio and others claimed that if the Department of Homeland Security did not achieve border security, then a commission, made up of border-state governors, would have the authority to do the job itself. “If, in five years, the plan has not reached 100 percent awareness and 90 percent apprehension, the Department of Homeland Security will lose control of the issue and it will be turned over to the border governors to finish the job,” Rubio told radio host Mark Levin shortly after the bill was introduced.

But there are no such provisions in the bill. In the legislation, the Border Commission’s purpose would be to make “recommendations to the President, the Secretary, and Congress on policies to achieve and maintain the border security goal.” The commission would have six months to write a report “setting forth specific recommendations.” And then, when the report is finished, the commission “shall terminate 30 days after the date on which the report is submitted.” That’s all it does. There’s nothing in the bill requiring the commission to finish the job of border security, and indeed it would have no authority to do so.

So what if a Republican filed an amendment that would empower the commission to enforce border security, stipulating that the 100 percent-90 percent structure must be in place before any green cards are awarded? It seems likely some supporters of the bill would strongly oppose such a requirement.

The bottom line is that the Gang’s advocates have made a number of statements attributing strong measures to the bill that were not actually in the bill. So what if Republicans tried to insert those measures into the legislation on their own? The proposals would almost certainly be voted down, but some of the weaknesses in the bill would be exposed for all to see.