To: Bonefish who wrote (720656 ) 6/11/2013 3:20:47 PM From: Bilow Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1586430 Hi Bonefish; The reason that colony collapse disorder hasn't been debunked like catastrophic global warming is that they're not asking for billions of dollars. The driving force is the same, science and industry feeding at the government trough. Here's a nice read on how the climate alarmists were beaten by a fairly small group of people with no funding:How to Run a Really Bad Infowar Campaign It’s perhaps a debatable opinion, but I think the main way that a lot people found out there actually was such a thing as the climate skeptic blogosphere, was that its existence was highlighted by the alarmists themselves. In the complete absence of any PR budget, it was actually the alarmists who by attacking it, inadvertently spread the word that there was an alternative narrative on offer from a small skeptic community in the blogosphere. That mistake was the shape of blunders to come. The alarmists, like all compulsive fanatics, simply could not abide any opposition, no matter how small, sciency or obscure it was, and let’s be frank here, in the early years, those three adjectives described the skeptic community quite accurately. Innocuous though it was, they just couldn’t leave it be and had to go after it, because that’s the elemental nature of fanatics. ...thepointman.wordpress.com His basic point is that true believers are too stupid to run a decent propaganda campaign. We're lucky. These guys are nowhere near as smart as the Nazis. The rest of the article is worth reading. The number of people skeptical on the bee "crisis" is much smaller than the global warming skeptics. So none of the above mistakes apply. Instead, the public will eventually get tired of hearing that bees are in crisis and the thing will blow away. In the meantime, the price of honey and almonds hasn't gone up and the beekeepers still get price support from the US government, LOL. Buzziness as usual. -- Carl