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To: tejek who wrote (720781)	6/12/2013 2:48:30 AM
From: Bilow	1 Recommendation Recommended By Brumar89 Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1586502

Hi tejek; You're deluded if you think I've lost an argument on colony collapse disorder. Let's review what I've shown (and which you're not even trying to debate, these are facts): (1) There's been no sudden decrease in honey production. (2) Honey prices are relatively stable. (3) Beekeepers are complaining about too much competition between bees. (4) Almond prices have not significantly increased. (5) Almond production, per acre, are setting new all-time records. (6) US government farm subsidies to help support honey prices are continuing. Even one of these is simply incompatible with a world where bees are endangered. The only reason CCD hasn't been debunked is that no one cares. Eventually the story will get old and it will begin to fade away. Between now and then a bunch of scientists will be able to buy shoes for their kids, some journalists will be paid to write bad science scare stories and the public will watch the entertainment but not have to make a single change to their lifestyle as a result. The whole thing is phantasm, a mirage, a story about nothing at all with no real substance to it. Go buy yourself an antique book on beekeeping. You can get them on eBay. Read it. You'll discover that bees have been dying and colonies have been collapsing for as long as humans have kept bees. The books will tell you how to reduce the chance of this happening. There's nothing new going on now. Bees have been subject to disease for as long as there have been bees. This is a story about something that's been going on for millions of years. The reason they're playing it now is that it makes a good bed-time horror story for moronic leftists. -- Carl P.S. There's some things you probably didn't know about beekeeping and drugs. I'lll put it into a separate post. When you read it you might get a better idea about colony collapse disorder and why CCD can't cause a problem for pollinating crops other than, perhaps, almonds. And by the way, if you look around, you'll discover that the almond folks are creating new varieties of almonds that don't need bees for pollination, so you can guess that even that problem will gradually fade away: ARS Scientists Develop Self-pollinating Almond Trees US Department of Agriculture Agricultural Research Service April 6, 2010 Self-pollinating almond trees that can produce a bountiful harvest without insect pollination are being developed by Agricultural Research Service (ARS) scientists. This is good news for almond growers who face rising costs for insect pollination because of nationwide shortages of honey bees due to Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) and other factors. ... ars.usda.gov

To: tejek who wrote (720781)	6/12/2013 3:06:20 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1586502

Hi tejek; Here a beekeeper shows how to avoid colony collapse disorder and also avoid having to give any medications whatsoever to your bees. The article also gives some hints on what kinds of chemicals are in the honey you buy in stores: The Ways of Winter Thom Trusewicz ... I’ve spoken with a few of our beekeepers who do not want to put chemicals in their hives. They are going to see if the bees can tough it out. I would like to agree with them. A chemical free hive is most desirable but the reality is I can only imagine what can happen to bees if un-medicated. ... First we are putting all sorts of chemicals into our hives. We are supposed to have a grace period (15 days) where we do not place honey supers on the hive until the major traces of chemicals are gone. That means no supers until 15 days after the nosema medicine jars have been removed, the terramycin is gone and the mite strips have been removed. That’s a good idea, but bees are busy. Can you be sure that stuff from the medicated brood boxes never makes their way up to the honey supers? Let’s say you smoke your bees and they eat their fill preparing to evacuate their hive. When the smoke clears do you think that they put the honey back in the same place where they got it? orsba.org -- Carl P.S. By the way, the above article is quite well known in the beekeeping community. You'll find lots of talk about it. Most people won't do it because they think of their bees as little pets.