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To: Amelia Carhartt who wrote (101122)	6/15/2013 6:34:44 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218005

the people of hong kong has made known their views, and it be thumbs-up for freedom over tyranny scmp.com Exclusive poll reveals: Don't hand Edward Snowden over to the US \| South China Morning PostHalf of Hong Kong people believe that cyberspying whistle-blower Edward Snowden should not be handed over if Washington makes a formal request for his return, according to an exclusive opinion poll commissioned by the Sunday Morning Post. The poll results, in which only 17.6 per cent of respondents thought Snowden should be sent back, come after hundreds took to the streets yesterday to demand that the 29-year-old former CIA analyst - who is hiding out in the city - not be sent back to the US where he is the subject of a criminal investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The findings also came as Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying broke his silence on one of the most diplomatically sensitive episodes in the city's history, saying the case would be handled in accordance with the "laws and established procedures of Hong Kong … when the relevant mechanism is activated". Leung said the government would "follow up on any incidents related to the privacy or other rights of the institutions or people in Hong Kong being violated". The statement is a clear reference to claims by Snowden in an exclusive interview with the South China Morning Post last week, that the US National Security Agency has hacked into computers in Hong Kong and on the mainland for years. Snowden also said the US was "trying to bully" Hong Kong over his possible surrender, but last night a government source said: "Under no circumstances can the US bully Hong Kong in any way." The source rejected as "total nonsense" US media reports that Hong Kong and US government lawyers were working together on the Snowden case. The Post poll, carried out by the Centre for Communication and Public Opinion Survey at Chinese University found that 49.9 per cent of the 509 respondents were "against" or "strongly against" the government surrendering Snowden to the US if Washington were to ask the city to do so. Only 17.6 per cent said he should be handed over. The rest either refused to answer or had not formed an opinion. The telephone poll, conducted in Chinese on Thursday and Friday, found that 33 per cent of people regarded Snowden as a hero; 12.8 per cent described him as a traitor; and 23 per cent felt "something in between". The rest said they could not comment. The poll also showed that Hong Kong people across different age groups and education backgrounds held similar views. Male respondents were more likely to see Snowden as a hero, while women preferred not to answer the question. Civic Party leader Alan Leong Kah-kit said the power to reject any US requests to surrender Snowden was in the hands of the central government. "According to the agreement to surrender fugitive offenders, the Hong Kong government has no choice but to follow the procedures - unless Beijing chooses to intervene at this stage," he said. "But that, in my opinion, is highly unlikely." Executive Councillor Regina Ip Lau Suk-yee said it could be "dangerous" for the government to make a decision based on following public opinion at a given point in time.

To: Amelia Carhartt who wrote (101122)

6/15/2013 6:44:45 PM

From: TobagoJack

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i am worried about little jack ... he may be a genius but not complete school

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/15/united-stasi-of-america/United Stasi of America

Posted on June 15, 2013 by Armstrong Economics

The thing I find truly astonishing is just when you think the US press could not possibly sink any further, they amazingly find even a lower level. It took the Guardian in Britain to expose the NSA in the USA. It took the American press 30 seconds to discover Snowden’s girlfriend.

The images of Snowden’s girlfriend dancing on a pole and posing in underwear is about as meaningful to the issue at hand as who was Obama’s first girlfriend. Perhaps if we discovered that, it might shed light on his ability 50 years later to be President? Anyone who has spoken to anybody who grew up in East Germany will tell you the NSA is actingPRECISELY as did the Stasi – the most notorious secret police in East Germany. There is absolutely nothing the government is now not collecting.

Then they harp on Snowden dropping out of school. Actually, those who do not conform and have the guts to stand up also have trouble with schools teaching the same nonsense. They get board and move beyond the teacher. Bill Gates dropped out and started Microsoft. Then there was Winston Churchill. Snowden fits the bill. To quote the Last Lion:

“Clearly there was something odd here. Winston, Davidson had conceded, was the ablest boy in his form. He was, in fact, remarkable. His grasp of history was outstanding. Yet he was considered a hopeless pupil. It occurred to no one that the fault might lie, not in the boy, but in the school. Samuel Butler defined genius as “a supreme capacity for getting

its possessors into trouble of all kinds,” and it is ironic that geniuses are likeliest to be misunderstood in classrooms. Studies at the University of Chicago and the University of Minnesota have found that teachers smile on children with high IQs and frown upon those with creative minds. Intelligent but uncreative students accept conformity, never rebel, and complete their assignments with dispatch and to perfection. The creative child, on the other hand, is manipulative, imaginative, and intuitive. He is likely to harass the teacher. He is regarded as wild, naughty, silly, undependable, lacking in seriousness or even promise. His behavior is distracting; he doesn’t seem to be trying; he gives unique answers to banal questions, touching off laughter among the other children. E. Paul Torrance of Minnesota found that 70 percent of pupils rated high in creativity were rejected by teachers picking a special class for the intellectually gifted. The Goertzels concluded that a Stanford study of genius, under which teachers selected bright children, would have excluded Churchill, Edison, Picasso, and Mark Twain.”